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TIO777 08-09-2007 02:56 PM

First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
OK, bear with me as this is my first hand post. I'll try to do the best I can.

3/6 Game Live

Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I raise, fold to button who calls cold, SB calls, BB Calls.

8 SB to the flop.

Reads

Button is a solid older player, who normally plays his good cards passively, until at least the turn.

SB is a LA, who called me down earlier on a bluff I tried to make. He was killing time while waiting for a NL game.

The BB has been around for two or three orbits and I get the feeling that while he may play a home game, he is relatively new to casino poker. He got lucky earlier in a big pot on a BB special flush draw and is up for the moment.

Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets, button calls, SB folds (a surprise actually), and BB raises. Hero re-raises. Button folds, BB calls.

Turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Somehow I have the feeling he made his flush and I check the turn. BB checks behind.

River is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check, BB bets, I call.

Tell me if I did anything wrong here. I thought about betting the turn, but my gut told me his hand was made.

Result in white below.

<font color="white"> Turns out he has the flush (10 &amp; 6 of diamonds) and I am beaten. </font>

blackasthma 08-09-2007 02:59 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
You're UTG so last to act HU with BB...right???
Bet the turn and if he check/raises, dump it. If he calls turn, check behind on river.

OvrTheTop111 08-09-2007 03:07 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
Your turn/river action is messed up, you should be in position on the turn/river if he is BB.

If he checks to me on the turn I'm betting here.

I don't see someone who is inexpierenced c/ring with a flush draw. It could be a set or two pair, but if so he would probably cap?

I'm betting the turn to see where we are at. If I'm c/red again I could find a fold.

Also, please dont post results.

TIO777 08-09-2007 03:09 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
You ar eright, I got my action confused a little. He checked and I checked turn.

He bet and I called river.

gobbledygeek 08-09-2007 03:45 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
I bet the turn; BB could easily have top pair with good kicker. If check/raised I think I call (I think the pot would be 10.5:1 right then and I'd have 4 outs to beat two pair). If I whiff on the river and he bets the pot is now 12.5:1; I think I have to make a crying call but I could be really really wrong on that.

GcryingcallsaremybusinessandbusinessisgoodG

KitCloudkicker 08-09-2007 04:57 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
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Bet the turn and if he check/raises, dump it.

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johnb 08-09-2007 11:09 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
He also may have checked the turn because he was afraid you made a flush. I'm thinking he called bftf with 33 or 55. I think you were probably beat but with the pot that size I would call the river after I checked the turn...jb

blackasthma 08-09-2007 11:30 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
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Bet the turn and if he check/raises, dump it. If he calls turn, check behind on river.

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On second thought, I would bet the river here, too. You still have a strong hand, and he's not showing any real strength. But if he check-raises you either of the big streets, you're probably toast...

HoneyBadger 08-10-2007 04:58 AM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
I'd bet the turn, but I wouldn't fold to a raise.

jeffnc 08-10-2007 09:05 AM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
Yeah, it's kind of hard to tell what those home game players have. I don't put too much stock in a made flush yet, so I bet the turn again.

jeffnc 08-10-2007 09:06 AM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
By the way, posting results is fine.

Ricks 08-10-2007 12:03 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
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By the way, posting results is fine.

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I understand why you may think this but the sticky on the front page requests that you do not post results.

The 2+2 Forums Before You Post in This LIMIT Forum, Please Read

jesse8888 08-10-2007 12:53 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
Once you check behind on the turn, you have to call the bet on the river. Well done.

I would have bet the turn, personally, mostly because of your read (which I think after this hand you should have adjusted). If I got check-raised, I'd have folded. If I got called and checked to on the river, I'd have checked behind then.

Overall, I think you played this fine.

Shean 08-10-2007 03:59 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
I agree with betting the turn, then dumping if you get check-raised.

BB's check-raise on the flop confuses me, especially once we know he's got only a flush draw. If I was getting check-raised on that flop, I'd put him on a good Jack (AJ/KJ/QJ), not a flush draw, because (1) he'd want more opponents in to help with pot odds; and (2) he'd want to get to the next card as cheaply as possible.

The only time I'd advocate checking the turn when the 3rd diamond hit was if I had the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for the nut flush redraw. Would hate to get check-raised... and betting the turn would likely lead to either (1) anyone with a made flush check-raising; and (2) anyone without a flush folding... or seriously consider folding.

HoneyBadger 08-10-2007 04:57 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
Never dump aces against an unknown. If you want to fold to a raise, then don't bet.

PokerBob 08-10-2007 07:09 PM

Re: First Hand Post my AA raised on flop - did I do the right thing
 
checking this turn is super bad. if you think he has a flush, then you should bet/fold the turn. checking the turn and calling a river bet sucks, as another diamond may fall or he has a jack and will pay you on the turn. bet.


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