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krumeluren 08-04-2007 04:08 PM

43s combodraw played too fast?
 
3rd hand or so of the session. I'm always saying too myself that I would start out slow and then speed up. Well it doesnt always work ...

I choose to check raise and he just calls .... what could he have? Why didn't he push. No reads I'm afraid since I just sat down.

Should I play this one slower?


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $197.40
Hero (BB): $203.20
UTG: $196.00
MP: $227.35
CO: $75.44
BTN: $370.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $7.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $17.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, UTG calls $33.00

Turn: ($122) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $146.19</font>, UTG calls all-in for $139.00
Uncalled bet of $7.19 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $400.00 ($3.50 Rake)

Tony Montana 22 08-04-2007 04:36 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
The problem is not in playing too fast, but played at all...

fold preflop.

krumeluren 08-04-2007 04:47 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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The problem is not in playing too fast, but played at all...

fold preflop.

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If you say so. I'm not that nitty though, and can think of many reasons for playing a suited connector for 2.5bb in a 3-way pot.

Oct0puz 08-04-2007 04:49 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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I choose to check raise and he just calls

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That's why you shouldn't be plyaing SC's OOP and that's why you should go fo for a b/3b.

JohnAndersen 08-04-2007 04:50 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
I don't mind pf, but what are you accomplishing on the turn here? I think our hand has too much value here to turn into a bluff.

Oct0puz 08-04-2007 04:52 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
And I think it's better to c/c a not too big bet on the turn. I don't expect an unknown to fold after he called your big c/r.

krumeluren 08-04-2007 04:58 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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I choose to check raise and he just calls

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That's why you shouldn't be plyaing SC's OOP and that's why you should go fo for a b/3b.

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yeah, donk/raise seems like a better line and I do that with sets most of the time.

Sly_Fox 08-04-2007 05:01 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
I like this. If you check turn your hand is pretty transparent.

krumeluren 08-04-2007 05:03 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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I don't mind pf, but what are you accomplishing on the turn here? I think our hand has too much value here to turn into a bluff.

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Yeah, this is what sux with the CR line. The pot was huge and I couldnīt really put villain on a hand. I thought I could make villain to fold an overpair here.

krumeluren 08-04-2007 05:05 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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And I think it's better to c/c a not too big bet on the turn. I don't expect an unknown to fold after he called your big c/r.

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I figured that if I don't push, he will.

krumeluren 08-04-2007 05:07 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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I like this. If you check turn your hand is pretty transparent.

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Thats what i thought also.

Sly_Fox 08-04-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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I don't mind pf, but what are you accomplishing on the turn here? I think our hand has too much value here to turn into a bluff.

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He represented 2pr or set on flop and unless he is in a habit of c/r with those type hands and checking non scary turns checking here would be silly.

Unknown Soldier 08-04-2007 05:29 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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I don't mind pf, but what are you accomplishing on the turn here? I think our hand has too much value here to turn into a bluff.

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we have a pair of 3s, it's hardly going to win at showdown..

TDouble 08-04-2007 05:32 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
This is the perfect flop for a b/3b all in

krumeluren 08-04-2007 05:47 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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This is the perfect flop for a b/3b all in

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Agreed, I will do that next time. Better fold equity with that line and it will fit well with my set play.

Wouldn't have mattered this time though since he had 22. Why din't he push over my flop raise on that board? Oohh well.

dragonystic 08-04-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
i wouldnt play this hand this way, but I like the line nonetheless. You have a lot of fold equity, you have plenty of outs if you get called, and even if you get called and miss, everyone at the table will probably start stacking off against more easily.

krumeluren 08-04-2007 06:05 PM

Re: 43s combodraw played too fast?
 
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i wouldnt play this hand this way, but I like the line nonetheless. You have a lot of fold equity, you have plenty of outs if you get called, and even if you get called and miss, everyone at the table will probably start stacking off against more easily.

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I like when they stack off easily [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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