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JoeU 08-02-2007 09:34 PM

5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
5-10 loose game at Foxwoods.

Hand 1

I am in MP with TcTs. One limper to me, I raise, button calls 2 cold (fairly loose player). BB calls, limper calls. 4 to the flop for 4 BB

Flop: 8c4h3s

Checked to me, I bet, button raises, other 2 limpers fold, I 3-bet, he calls. 2 to the turn for 7BB

Turn: 8d(8c4h3s)

I bet, he calls. 2 to the river for 9BB

River: 8s(8d8c4h3s)

Your action?



Hand 2

I am 1 from the CO with AcQs. No reads as I have changed tables from the must move. Also, this is a kill pot, so we are playing 10-20 here.

I open raise, CO, button, SB and BB call. 5 players to the flop for 5BB

Flop: Qd6h2c

Checked to me, I bet, button calls, everyone else folds. 2 to the turn for 6BB

Turn: Kd (Qd6h2c)

I bet, he calls. 2 to the river for 8BB.

River: 8c (KdQd6h2c)

Your action?

Please feel free to add any comments on the other streets on both hands as well.

Thanks for your help guys.

Joe

Allday Everyday 08-02-2007 10:45 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
I think you have played both hands well to this point. I would value bet both of these rivers. In both I think there are plenty of worse hands that will call. If you are behind I think they will bet anyway if you check, and if you are ahead I think they will check through worse holdings, not value betting or bluffing enough to encourage a check from you. If you get raised? I'm not sure about SS live games, but I think you should call in the first hand, and possibly fold in the second hand.

Diana Ross Fan 08-02-2007 11:08 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
5-10 loose game at Foxwoods.

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3 opponents calling a raise isn't loose enough for me.

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Hand 1

I am in MP with TcTs. One limper to me, I raise, button calls 2 cold (fairly loose player). BB calls, limper calls. 4 to the flop for 4 BB

Flop: 8c4h3s

Checked to me, I bet, button raises, other 2 limpers fold, I 3-bet, he calls. 2 to the turn for 7BB

Turn: 8d(8c4h3s)

I bet, he calls. 2 to the river for 9BB

River: 8s(8d8c4h3s)

Your action?

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BET. you will win more than half of the time. If your tens were good on the turn, they are good now. call a raise.

Diana Ross Fan 08-02-2007 11:18 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2

I am 1 from the CO with AcQs. No reads as I have changed tables from the must move. Also, this is a kill pot, so we are playing 10-20 here.

I open raise, CO, button, SB and BB call. 5 players to the flop for 5BB

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Now that's more like it. Where's the other half of the table [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] But which one of these callers was on the kill?
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Flop: Qd6h2c

Checked to me, I bet, button calls, everyone else folds. 2 to the turn for 6BB

Turn: Kd (Qd6h2c)

I bet, he calls. 2 to the river for 8BB.

River: 8c (KdQd6h2c)

Your action?

[/ QUOTE ]

Because you posted the hand, I suspect that you might be behind here. But he hasn't given any indication that you are beat. So Value Bet anyway. A lot of stronger hands won't raise and a lot of weak hands will call here.

KitCloudkicker 08-02-2007 11:50 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
bet both rivers. you'll win more often than you lose.

earlytimes1 08-03-2007 12:24 AM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
bet both rivers for value. in hand 1, an 8 is very unlikely as it usually raises the turn, and given the FH on board you will get calls from a 3, 4 or smaller PP. similar logic in hand 2, a K mostly raises the turn. it's a kill pot, you will get called down lighter than usual b/c of the pot size.

BigBadBabar 08-03-2007 02:51 AM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
both are easy bets

James. 08-03-2007 09:59 AM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
hey Joe,

i would definitely bet both rivers.

since we don't have reads that villains are aggressive, the question is whether it's a bet/call or bet/fold(or even bet/3bet in the first hand). since i don't want to face a cap in hand one, i'm bet/calling. since i some busted draws are possible in hand two and it's an unknown, i'm bet/calling. good luck.

Mygtar 08-03-2007 12:20 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
HAND #1:

Flop - Good. Did you thank him for getting the other folks out for you with his raise? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Turn - Looks good. No way I am not betting HU when checked to after I 3 bet the flop.

River - Bet. If you hand the best hand going into the RIVER you have the best hand now. Let him call his AK, AQ, smaller PP etc.


HAND #2:

Flop - Looks good.

Turn - Looks good. Same as above. Put in the last bet on previous round HU, checked to so bet it again.

River - Bet this out also. If you had the best hand at the Turn chances are you still do. I doubt you will get raised here very often. Good value bets on both hands, IMO.

See you at the 'Woods,
Mygtar

Mike Gallo 08-03-2007 01:00 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
Whats up Joe U?

Did you have any Yankee paraphernalia on?

I bet both rivers. But I tend to spew sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Mygtar 08-03-2007 01:20 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
Maybe for you because you're the "Archbishop of Valuetown". [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Peace,
Mygtar

Esso 08-03-2007 01:22 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
Hand #1 - Easy bet, if you are raised probably just call. A raise will be a smaller PP sometimes, and an 8 often. The PP might not call a 3-bet, and the 8 will cap of course. And you probably should fold to a cap, but will you? Just avoid this mess and just call a raise.

Hand #2 - Bet. You'll be suprised by a K here more often then you think, because lots of live villians won't raise the turn with just TP, plus they are afraid of AK so will just call down. It's hardly worth thinking about how to respond to a raise because you get raised here just about never, probably only by 88. Crying call, I guess, since they are unknown.

JoeU 08-03-2007 05:34 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
Did you have any Yankee paraphernalia on?

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I actually had my Matsui jersey on that night. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Joe

JoeU 08-03-2007 05:39 PM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands -- RESULTS
 
Thanks for the responses everyone. As for the way it went down:

Hand 1

I bet, he called, and turns over QQ. I was pretty suprised. He says to me "I thought you had aces" and I responded " then why did you call". He spewed the chips off later making bad calls.

Hand 2

I whimped out and checked the river. He checked behind and MHIG. I was mad at myself when he checked behind and before I knew MHWG because i felt like I was missing a bet.

Thanks for the responses.

Joe

StrictlyStrategy 08-04-2007 02:25 AM

Re: 5-10 @ Foxwoods: 2 hands -- RESULTS
 
You're too results oriented.


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