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aislephive 07-31-2007 05:37 PM

Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating
 
Fgators in SSNL:

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I'm going out and getting a lawyer and investigating PokerStars. I have about 200 pages of Word documents with tournament and cash game hands where I improbably lost the hand as a monster favorite. This cannot be "bad luck". They will be under investigation and hopefully I can take those scumbags down and gain some retribution from all the money they've stolen from me for running their rigged and cheating operation.

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Kermit 07-31-2007 05:38 PM

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i want to vote for more than one

Mike Cuneo 07-31-2007 05:40 PM

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Ground floor

ikestoys 07-31-2007 05:40 PM

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the link doesn't come up with his post for me

Khaos4k 07-31-2007 05:40 PM

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Monster favorite = 60:40

DMoogle 07-31-2007 05:43 PM

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As much as I love to chooes BASTARD!, I think CHOO CHOO is the correct option here.

SneakyFerret 07-31-2007 05:44 PM

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This thread does have potential

professormike 07-31-2007 05:45 PM

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Prn_WVYC7vs


IM BOUT TO CALL BOVICE. WE BOUT TO RUN THE TRAIN ON YOU

LucidDream 07-31-2007 05:46 PM

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ground floor...ship it

Stealthy 07-31-2007 05:46 PM

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Kermit 07-31-2007 05:47 PM

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This thread does have potential

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i think gators has earned the honor of some photoshops

keikiwai 07-31-2007 05:49 PM

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[X] I'm going out and getting a lawyer and investigating PokerStars. I have about 200 pages of Word documents.

sixfour 07-31-2007 05:51 PM

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Fgators is unable to find a lawyer who accepts FPPs

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A+, first poll in ages I haven't instabastarded

ImsaKidd 07-31-2007 05:52 PM

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I voted CHOO CHOO because I probably put some of those beats on Gators.

vbm 07-31-2007 06:01 PM

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CHOO CHOO and its not close

dp13368 07-31-2007 06:01 PM

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Wasn't it already shown that he doctored/changed the HHs in the word document to make it look like they were beats?

Triumph36 07-31-2007 06:17 PM

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Wasn't it already shown that he doctored/changed the HHs in the word document to make it look like they were beats?

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would be pretty awesome and standard if that did happen.

furyshade 07-31-2007 06:21 PM

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wait, i still dont get how stars gets more money if this happens, wouldn't they get the same amount of rake if he wins or loses any given pot or did poker change in the last 12 hours?

hasugopher 07-31-2007 06:26 PM

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Fgators is unable to find a lawyer who accepts FPPs

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A+, first poll in ages I haven't instabastarded

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ProfBets 07-31-2007 06:30 PM

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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, ship it.

tarheeljks 07-31-2007 06:30 PM

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Wasn't it already shown that he doctored/changed the HHs in the word document to make it look like they were beats?

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would be pretty awesome and standard if that did happen.

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you can't say this w/o linking said thread

hasugopher 07-31-2007 06:30 PM

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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, ship it.

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thank you for your continued support

dtan05 07-31-2007 06:30 PM

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this is hilarious.

MyTurn2Raise 07-31-2007 06:31 PM

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

HiBaCHi 07-31-2007 06:34 PM

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awesome

NU Star 07-31-2007 06:36 PM

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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WTF

LucidDream 07-31-2007 06:39 PM

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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WTF

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yes, it's true...Stars is rigged

LDO

early325 07-31-2007 06:40 PM

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Can someone with a reasonable datamine of him run PokerEV and post graphs.

Please.

EDIT: nevermind, stars doesn't showdown hands when AI.

BowToYourSensei 07-31-2007 06:40 PM

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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, we're truly terrible.

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FYP

BowToYourSensei 07-31-2007 06:41 PM

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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, we're the reason gambler2k4 still thinks he's good.

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FYP

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FMP

BowToYourSensei 07-31-2007 06:41 PM

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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, we're a disgrace to humanity.

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FYP

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FMP

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FMP again

MyTurn2Raise 07-31-2007 06:42 PM

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oh yeah, I also voted FGators sucks cuz I've played with him and that was my player note

BowToYourSensei 07-31-2007 06:43 PM

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http://diy.despair.com/output/poster81286834.jpg

nath 07-31-2007 06:44 PM

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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wait what

LionelHutz00 07-31-2007 06:44 PM

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lol maybe fgators should try c-betting the flop more than 50% of the time.

LionelHutz00 07-31-2007 06:46 PM

Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating
 
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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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sklansky bux graph plz

TehVader 07-31-2007 06:47 PM

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Why doesn't the link work?

Fonzy4 07-31-2007 06:50 PM

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Can we take FT to court too? lol

ProfBets 07-31-2007 06:53 PM

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Who is this BowtoYourSensei clown?
I take it he runs as well if not better than Sponger?

BowToYourSensei 07-31-2007 06:54 PM

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Who is this BowtoYourSensei clown?
I take it he [censored] my mother?

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QFT


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