QQ on weird board
 

Villain is a 16/14, although only over 200 hands. I actually timed out here cause I was really confused. What do you guys think of my turn bet, and is the river a snap call or easy fold?


Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($162.30)
Hero ($400)
CO ($412.50)
Button ($204)
SB ($396)
BB ($54.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, CO calls $20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, CO calls $38.

Turn: ($126) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, CO calls $100.

River: ($326) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $254.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $580.50

Re: QQ on weird board
 

Meh, I would call since all draws missed, and I find it hard to imagine that he would slowplay an 8 on such a drawy board.

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turn bet is fine. id prob call the river.

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its probably 88 but i would call

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would help a lot with more of a read than "16/14"... vs unknown I prob call but if he's more of the passive/slowplaying type I guess you can fold

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against this nit villian a fold is fine

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would help a lot with more of a read than "16/14"... vs unknown I prob call but if he's more of the passive/slowplaying type I guess you can fold

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obv, but like I said I only had 200 hands on him

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would help a lot with more of a read than "16/14"... vs unknown I prob call but if he's more of the passive/slowplaying type I guess you can fold

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obv, but like I said I only had 200 hands on him

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Fold. This is AK/KQ clubs.

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would help a lot with more of a read than "16/14"... vs unknown I prob call but if he's more of the passive/slowplaying type I guess you can fold

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obv, but like I said I only had 200 hands on him

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if you actually played 200 hands with him then I dunno how you dont have a read at all, tbh. I assumed it was datamined or something?

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would help a lot with more of a read than "16/14"... vs unknown I prob call but if he's more of the passive/slowplaying type I guess you can fold

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obv, but like I said I only had 200 hands on him

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if you actually played 200 hands with him then I dunno how you dont have a read at all, tbh. I assumed it was datamined or something?

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lol LDO

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Am I the only one who checks the turn?

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Am I the only one who checks the turn?

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in a vacuum against a straightforward player checking the turn might be right, however it is certainly close. However...

I cant speak for any1 else, but I am betting this turn b/c I would bluff this turn as well w/ nothing, so I assunming a jack or tt will not fold. Also it make it easier for him to check behind on the river when everything blanks off and i check.

My main problem with this hand is that it doesnt make sense for him to not raise the turn but then go ahead and shove the river. That seems retarded w/ just about any hand he can have.

Also my main reason for folding this hand was the propensity for people that arent regs to like to slowplay. Most regulars would be raising the turn or the flop with a FH or trips here, while it seems unknowns are more likely to be slowplaying

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My main problem with this hand is that it doesnt make sense for him to not raise the turn but then go ahead and shove the river. That seems retarded w/ just about any hand he can have.

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I could see the call on the turn if he thinks he has it - maybe an AK-clubs, or maybe he was trying to steal blinds preflop with an A8 and got lucky. Either way, he could be hoping to get one more shot out of the hero on the river - when he was checked to, hey, the pot is big, why not push and make it look like you might be trying to steal it away. A raise on the turn could lose him the chance to get more out of the hand.

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Im curious who villian is

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