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Patriks 07-27-2007 05:24 AM

2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to patrikskjold [Ac Qh]
ibadbeatyou: raises $200 to $400
PeachyMer: raises $200 to $600
buck21: folds
pita1: folds
patrikskjold: raises $200 to $800
Betting is capped
Jee1: folds
ibadbeatyou: calls $400
PeachyMer: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Qd 7d Kh]
patrikskjold: bets $200
ibadbeatyou: raises $200 to $400
PeachyMer: folds
patrikskjold: calls $200
*** TURN *** [Qd 7d Kh] [As]

whats my line on this turn with a blank river? What changes if the Flop comes Ad 7d Kh with the turn being the Qs?

daryn 07-27-2007 09:43 AM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
if the flop was Ad 7d Kh i hope you're putting more than $400 in

i would most likely try to bet/3bet this turn since he's so aggro

baronzeus 07-27-2007 10:17 AM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
given how stupid ibadbeatyou is, i'm bet-3betting here and calling down a cap

eviljeff 07-27-2007 12:41 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
when did peachy start playing 2/4?

sup_bro 07-27-2007 01:03 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
i lead the TURN but i also think there is a STRONG possibility that u are getting raised which doesnt mean u are necessarily beat SINCE i can see him raising that flop with AJ or A10 so he thinks he hit gin...i like the fact that peachy folded but i realize that ibadbeatyou is hyper aggressive so u are obviously not folding this one BUT if he does RAISE the TURN i obviously CK/Call the river...the thing that changes with the flop being Ad 7d Kh is that on that sort of flop i can see many people going crazy with AJ or A10 so when the Q hits i think u CK the TURN to CR it becasue i think ibadbeatyou is DEF. betting that TURN...

Scary_Tiger 07-27-2007 01:23 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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when did peachy start playing 2/4?

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Long time ago. But she's been seen at 10/20 plenty in between.

baronzeus 07-27-2007 01:24 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
lol sup bro ur my new fav poster

The Funky Llama 07-27-2007 01:27 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
unless this guy is retarded, bet/3bet here seems like a huge overplay.

baronzeus 07-27-2007 01:45 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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unless this guy is retarded , bet/3bet here seems like a huge overplay.

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he is

daryn 07-27-2007 01:48 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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when did peachy start playing 2/4?

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prob her bf on acct

PartyGirlUK 07-27-2007 01:52 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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unless this guy is retarded , bet/3bet here seems like a huge overplay.

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he is

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Patriks 07-27-2007 02:57 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
u guys saw that ibadbeatyou opened UTG in a 6max table? WHich range would u give him. bet/3bet turn is a hugh overplay here...

daryn 07-27-2007 02:59 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
he could have basically any ace, most kings, plenty of other absolute [censored] hands.. but if you want just bet and call a raise, then check call river.

baronzeus 07-27-2007 03:15 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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u guys saw that ibadbeatyou opened UTG in a 6max table? WHich range would u give him. bet/3bet turn is a hugh overplay here...

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the only memorable experiences i have with him are 3betting shcneiders open raise with 95s and raising T7o UTG+1.


edit: also he'll free showdown here a LOT with QJ KJ type hands knowing that most ppl wont 3bet that turn almost ever when they dont 3bet flop. good thing im smarter than that.

DeathDonkey 07-27-2007 03:23 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
Anyone here fold preflop? I don't know the villains but I fold this in any normal 6 max game preflop.

-DeathDonkey

sup_bro 07-27-2007 03:50 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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lol sup bro ur my new fav poster

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baron...sarcasm?? what makes me your NEW fav. poster....

daryn 07-27-2007 05:18 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
deathdonkey are you serious?

Crusher19 07-27-2007 06:00 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
A pre flop fold seems out of the question, especially from the line the hero has on the villian. I like a check raise on the turn, if you're certain he will bet it because if the villian is the type to raise for a free showdown it forces him to put in the 3rd bet to do that, where as if you bet to 3 bet and you're behind in the hand you will end up losing 5 big bets when he 4 bets the turn and fires the river.

PartyGirlUK 07-27-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
I would fold pre v. certain ppl, with IBBU in and a 3 better aware of his spasticated tendencies, gotta play it.

DeathDonkey 07-27-2007 06:24 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
Of course. The default play when UTG raises and UTG+1 3 bets in a 6 max game is to cap AQo from the SB now?

-DeathDonkey

Patriks 07-28-2007 03:40 AM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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Of course. The default play when UTG raises and UTG+1 3 bets in a 6 max game is to cap AQo from the SB now?

-DeathDonkey

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If u dont cap AQo u should call, not fold in this spot.

dangerfish 07-28-2007 03:19 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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unless this guy is retarded , bet/3bet here seems like a huge overplay.

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he is

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Let me get this st8. ibbu is a total retard fish? Big loser in these games according to you Baron? Dean, you have a lot of experience playing these stakes with him? Because I noticed you copy pasting what Baron said as if that adds something to the thread other than wasting our time.

Really surprised by those comments I would love to hear a more elaborate explanation of your asessment of this donkey.

AndyatSD 07-28-2007 09:29 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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Anyone here fold preflop? I don't know the villains but I fold this in any normal 6 max game preflop.

-DeathDonkey

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When no one is on tilt I fold here pre flop - that's line play for me at least vs UTG raise and UTG+1 3 bet.

~andy

dangerfish 07-28-2007 09:38 PM

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given how stupid ibadbeatyou is, i'm bet-3betting here and calling down a cap

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Baron, you got a decent amount of hands on this guy? I don't mean to be a dick but we have such contrasting opinion of this guy and I would like to see what you base yours on.

baronzeus 07-28-2007 09:56 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
well, when you 3bet a utg raiser w/ 95s and then raise T7 UTG or something a few hands later you are clearly exploitable.

JAA 07-28-2007 10:56 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
lol dangerfish=ibadbeatyou obvi

- Jeff

baronzeus 07-28-2007 10:59 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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lol dangerfish=ibadbeatyou obvi

- Jeff

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dangerfish 07-28-2007 11:17 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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well, when you 3bet a utg raiser w/ 95s and then raise T7 UTG or something a few hands later you are clearly exploitable.

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Your kidding right? I want to see you show me PT stats that say IBBU is a big loser in these games or at least some compelling evidence that suggest he is a fish. You are way too smart to just take a few hands and make a statement like this. You put him squarely on a spot in those games, sure you got that right?

baronzeus 07-28-2007 11:21 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
dangerfish,

fine hes the best. im just full of jealousy [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

dangerfish 07-28-2007 11:25 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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dangerfish,

fine hes the best. im just full of jealousy [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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ha ha , I knew it. Thanks for being the bigger man. You have regained my respect.

daryn 07-29-2007 01:47 AM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
i still think he sucks, and i don't need a PT database to tell me

Dan Druff 07-29-2007 02:14 AM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
ibadbeatyou is an old time online player who also has spent quite a bit of time over the years in Commerce and other card rooms.

His name is Kenny. He's a tall, Asian guy -- probably early 30s -- and is/was friends with Aaron Katz. I haven't seen him around much over the past few years (someone told me he switched to NL), but he definitely WASN'T a fish when I played with him a few years back.

Also, I'm not a fan of folding AQo at any point pre-flop in most 6-max games. Perhaps I'd understand folding it to the cap of a very tight player, but caps with 77/88/99/TT/JJ/weird-random-hands are extremely common at today's high limit online 6-pack games.

If you really want to get in the habit of folding AQo preflop, it would be better to stick to full ring, where such play is often correct.

joker122 07-29-2007 01:53 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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he could have basically any ace, most kings, plenty of other absolute [censored] hands.. but if you want just bet and call a raise, then check call river.

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he's a spazz postflop but he still runs around 30/20,,,and thats over alot of hands.

AdidasChick 07-29-2007 02:07 PM

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Post deleted by Ryan Beal

Dan Druff 07-29-2007 03:09 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
Someone please explain why Adidas has the title of "spammer" yet is allowed to continue spamming these forums.

CallMeIshmael 07-29-2007 03:53 PM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
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Someone please explain why Adidas has the title of "spammer" yet is allowed to continue spamming these forums.

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he posts spam for a while, gets caught, gets banned, and has his title changed. He cant post anymore, but his previous posts will now show the 'spammer' title.

Yeti 07-30-2007 09:40 AM

Re: 2/4 vs ibadbeatyou
 
just a headsup, when you reply directly to that post you make it impossible to delete the existence of that post without first nuking all the replies on that chain. so unless the mod deletes dan, cmi's and now my post then you end up with that 'deleted by..' instead.

07-30-2007 10:51 AM

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AceCR9 07-30-2007 09:15 PM

Re: Post deleted by Ryan Beal
 
over 30 replies and no HU for rollz challenge yet? or don't you limit guys have those?

dangerfish 07-30-2007 11:50 PM

Re: Post deleted by Ryan Beal
 
Baron??


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