WSOP Main event hand 100/200 level
 

I have 33k to start the hand
EP guy has 21kish to start

I raise to 600 UTG with AQo. Guy 2 to my left calls, button calls. EP guy has been playing tight, seems much more concerned with surviving than playing well (weak/tight). Also, my inclination is that he's a half decent hand reader for this field of donkeys.

Flop (2100) 7 3 3 r

I bet 1400. EP raises to 4k. button folds.

I raise to 12k.

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you think 12k has more FE than just putting him allin? i think this is alright, but you kinda gotta call to try and hit 6 outs dont you? or do you think he has 777 if shoves over your 12k

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I'd just shove. I think it's good.. just not sure it's better than shoving.

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I like it. Tons of fold equity against the described player - who probably would have rred pf with AA/KK - its good as long as he doesn't know about:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-conten...rhorn_yeti.jpg

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meh @ shoving. I make it 12k which is effectively shoving since he'll have only 8k left if he chooses to "call." Therefore he has to ai or fold. If he goes ai then I can fold for the extra 8k.

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who raise folds overpairs? i dono , i dont know how often this has to work. your 25% when called by 88-JJ right? someone do some math, too drunk here.

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meh @ shoving. I make it 12k which is effectively shoving since he'll have only 8k left if he chooses to "call." Therefore he has to ai or fold. If he goes ai then I can fold for the extra 8k.

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...and i'll still have 20k left btw.

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can u really fold for the extra 8k?

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It seems likely villain called with a pp. Is there anything wrong with just check/folding this flop or folding to the raise?

If you reraise, I don't know whether it is better to go allin, but don't think you can fold once you make it 12K.

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given read it looks like villain has a weak overpair 'trying to find out where he's at' almost always, so i would let him know and shove. also, if u choose to make it 12k definitely call for 8k more if he shoves. i guess if he insta shoves u can fold cause it's less likely u have outs.

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can u really fold for the extra 8k?

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given read it looks like villain has a weak overpair 'trying to find out where he's at' almost always, so i would let him know and shove. also, if u choose to make it 12k definitely call for 8k more if he shoves. i guess if he insta shoves u can fold cause it's less likely u have outs.

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agree 100%

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yeah I definitely think I can fold off the extra 8k if he shoves. If I call the extra 8k I can be certain I'm pretty smoked by 77, KK, AA, A 3, QQ, or at best, JJ in that order.

I'm taking more into account that I will only have 12k left if I call and lose when certainly way behind.

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he shoved, I folded and he told me later he had A3s. I figured this was pretty low on his range considering he's been playing so tight, called my utg raise in EP.

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I check-fold the flop, I mean most of the time, some of the time I do what you did against that kind of player.

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If i raise i put him all in because in live, all in is the scariest and manliest of raises.

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good thing these dudes have never heard of the yeti theorem

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I like your line a lot, including the 12k not AI raise (which looks scarier but also saves you money if he pushes, as you said). If you're the villain and have medium pockets here (obv not 77), what can you think you're beating? He'd have to fold putting you on a big pair, no?

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This reeks of Yeti theorem. (Although if the guy 4-bet shoved with A3, maybe he's too weak to know Yeti theorem.)

Anyway, lately I only 3-bet when I do have the trips due to Yeti theorem and similarly am only calling when I have AQ. Since calling sucks, hrm.

I think your read on him might be off a little bit if he plays A3 OOP in a raised pot multiway.

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I'd just bet/fold, donkament players always have it. The people who raise this flop 'to see where they're at' are few and far between, as is evident.

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link to yeti theorem pls?

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A 2+2 thread about it, I can't find the original:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...p;Main=9622773

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The Yeti Theorem

This theory was created by a long-time 2+2 poster. It stats: A player who 3-bets on a dry, paired board is [almost] always bluffing.

A perfect example of this is: Say you're on the BB with 99 and its folded to the button who raises it up. You call and the flop is 6h 2d 2s. You check, your opponent bets, and then you check raise him. Now if your opponent re-raises you, this is where the Yeti Theorem comes into play.

If your opponent had a 2 or 66, they would not 3 bet on this flop. Instead, they would be more apt to just calling your reraise in hopes of profiting on the later streets.


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