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David LoPan 07-21-2007 09:11 PM

Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
http://www.cardplayer.com/tv
mouthpiece ep 14

Rjack 07-21-2007 09:20 PM

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god, the load is so slow

David LoPan 07-21-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
loaded for me in 20 seconds

elliot 07-21-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
cliffs notes plz k thx

David LoPan 07-21-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Matusow calls Shaniac a blow up artist at final tables...Schlegervdoubled up the shortstack twice with one hand A10-high (no pair no draw) and another with A6os v AJ...hence is an idiot tiltbox who cost Matusow the tourney by blowing his stack off to the guy who won it.

Floker 07-21-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Matusow calls Shaniac aka "Schegeler" an idiot because of how he supposedly brought Kevin Saul right back in the game right after Kevin blew up his big chip lead. Shaniac apparently got in an all-in with no pair no draw on the flop and doubled him up with some weak ace in another spot I think.

edit: just looked the hands up (from cardplayer). They were:

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Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000.

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(blinds were $12,000/$24,000 with a $3,000 ante and Kevin had a diamond draw on the flop and hit it on the turn)

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Kevin Saul raises to $175,000 and Shane Schleger moves all in for $1,539,000. Saul calls and shows A J. Schleger shows A 6. The flop comes J 10 6 and both pair their kicker. The turn is the K giving outs to the chop. The river is the 4 and Shane Schleger is our fourth place finisher earning $232,690.

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(blinds were $30,000-$60,000 with a $5,000 ante)

nicksson 07-21-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
The Mouth is a genious

WellThatsFine 07-21-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
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Matusow calls Shaniac aka "Schegeler" an idiot because of how he supposedly brought Kevin Saul right back in the game right after Kevin blew up his big chip lead. Shaniac apparently got in an all-in with no pair no draw on the flop and doubled him up with some weak ace in another spot I think.

edit: just looked the hands up (from cardplayer). They were:

[ QUOTE ]
Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000.

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(blinds were $12,000/$24,000 with a $3,000 ante and Kevin had a diamond draw on the flop and hit it on the turn)

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Kevin Saul raises to $175,000 and Shane Schleger moves all in for $1,539,000. Saul calls and shows A J. Schleger shows A 6. The flop comes J 10 6 and both pair their kicker. The turn is the K giving outs to the chop. The river is the 4 and Shane Schleger is our fourth place finisher earning $232,690.

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(blinds were $30,000-$60,000 with a $5,000 ante)


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both members of team bax/sheets right? i'm just sayin

FF_Woodycooks 07-21-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
the turn is the 4 and saul will double up... i thought he had JT vs AT on 874 flop? T on riv changes nothing and Saul doubles. Is the flop a misprint?

candyman718 07-21-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
"Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000."

Low hand wins? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Bagonirix 07-21-2007 10:19 PM

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both members of team bax/sheets right? i'm just sayin

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obvious chip dump.

Floker 07-21-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
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"Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000."

Low hand wins? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Heh, I knew I should've put in the suits, but I did say in the original post that Kevin made his flush on the turn. He had JT of diamonds and the flop had two diamonds, Shane had no diamonds.

Bantam222 07-21-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
I liked the episode where he rants about the WSOP ME better.

silver book 07-21-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Matusow doesn't know the first thing about blow up artists

KSOT 07-21-2007 10:53 PM

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"Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000."

Low hand wins? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Heh, I knew I should've put in the suits, but I did say in the original post that Kevin made his flush on the turn. He had JT of diamonds and the flop had two diamonds, Shane had no diamonds.

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So Shane made a great read, got all his money in as a favorite, and got unlucky? Yeah, real big blowup Mike...

mason55 07-21-2007 11:01 PM

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"Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000."

Low hand wins? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Heh, I knew I should've put in the suits, but I did say in the original post that Kevin made his flush on the turn. He had JT of diamonds and the flop had two diamonds, Shane had no diamonds.

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So Shane made a great read, got all his money in as a favorite, and got unlucky? Yeah, real big blowup Mike...

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not quite

pokenum -h jd td - as th -- 7d 8d 4s
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 4s 8d 7d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jd Td 540 54.55 432 43.64 18 1.82 0.555
As Th 432 43.64 540 54.55 18 1.82 0.445

jah7_fsu1 07-21-2007 11:04 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Anytime you don't win is a blow up. Shane had a huge blowup here by not winning obviously. The Mouth (once again) is correct.

NeedATimeMachine 07-21-2007 11:10 PM

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The Mouth (once again) is correct.

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this is def. final table collusion

David LoPan 07-21-2007 11:11 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
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"Kevin Saul raises to $75,000 and Shane Schleger makes the call. The flop is 8 7 4 and Saul bets $100,000. Schleger raises to $700,000 and Saul moves all in for another $85,000 and Schleger must call. Saul has J 10 and Schleger is ahead with A 10. The turn is the 4 and Saul will double up. The river 10 doesn't change anything and Saul doubles up to just under $2,000,000."

Low hand wins? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Heh, I knew I should've put in the suits, but I did say in the original post that Kevin made his flush on the turn. He had JT of diamonds and the flop had two diamonds, Shane had no diamonds.

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So Shane made a great read, got all his money in as a favorite, and got unlucky? Yeah, real big blowup Mike...

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errrr wrong

KSOT 07-21-2007 11:23 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Oops, I didn't notice the gut shot.

Victor 07-21-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
<3 matusow. btw i saw shane on tv today. what a luckbox donk with his qj vs aa.

David LoPan 07-21-2007 11:49 PM

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<3 matusow. btw i saw shane on tv today. what a luckbox donk with his qj vs aa.

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didnt he blow up at the uspc final table too?

shaniac 07-22-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Yes, I'm an idiot and a blowup artist, but Mike could at least pronounce my name correctly, and for the record, Kevin and I were not working for the same backer during this tournament.

Jon1000 07-22-2007 12:36 AM

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Yes, I'm an idiot and a blowup artist, but Mike could at least pronounce my name correctly, and for the record, Kevin and I were not working for the same backer during this tournament.

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100K fight yo?

DoubleDealDecker 07-22-2007 01:06 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Cliff's notes--- This is probably the greatest stream of unconsciousness analysis in history. Do not miss the first 6 minutes of this.
Absolute must see TV. This is the best thing since bullets.
I used to hate Matusow, but now I realize "Mike is Right!"
We are blessed to live in the same century as this poker genius.

JennFox 07-22-2007 01:12 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
shane, im disappointed.. i was really anticipating a zinger reply from you.. i guess you're just too above that <3

ps. UPDATE [censored] BLOG, [censored]!!! DO IT!

ace_in_the_hole 07-22-2007 01:25 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
The way Kevin was playing I thought A 6 was much better than his range. I saw it as a value shove more than a bluff.

shaniac 07-22-2007 01:33 AM

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shane, im disappointed.. i was really anticipating a zinger reply from you.. i guess you're just too above that <3

ps. UPDATE [censored] BLOG, [censored]!!! DO IT!

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sorry jenn, the zingers and the blog updates are coming shortly--needed a full week de-zombify after the last night in town.

David LoPan 07-22-2007 01:57 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
gawdamit, the only reason I started this thread was so we can enjoy a patented shaniac zinger at MAtusow's expense

gg shane

pepeman 07-22-2007 02:08 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Mike thinks u are a fish, challenge him to a 100k HU.

minnesotasam 07-22-2007 02:14 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
How the hell can Shaniac be such a 2+2 presence and still be so goddamn professional all the time??

Wondercall 07-22-2007 02:29 AM

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How the hell can Shaniac be such a 2+2 presence and still be so goddamn professional all the time??

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Some dudes just got it.

johnnyrocket 07-22-2007 02:30 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
does neone take the mouth serious, he doesnt even understand why certain plays are made, he is an aggro fish

BenTurpen 07-22-2007 02:48 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Ugh at the caller/Matusow about the Watkinson play. I didn't like the play, but calling it a bad shove because Yang doesn't fold when the only hand he had showed down at that point was A-K is retarded.

Trae3ab 07-22-2007 04:38 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
It would be awesome if someone snuck up behind Matusow and kicked him in the BALLS when he wasn't looking.


Nards.

MattSuspect 07-22-2007 04:44 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
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It would be awesome if someone snuck up behind Matusow and kicked him in the BALLS when he wasn't looking.


Nards.

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Wolfman has Nards?

Burno 07-22-2007 04:49 AM

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It would be awesome if someone snuck up behind Matusow and kicked him in the BALLS when he wasn't looking.


Nards.

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Wolfman has Nards?

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Immediately catching this reference makes me __________?

W brad 07-22-2007 06:20 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
This Schleger idiot needs a Wikipedia article. There's already a request for one, but that is out of date (not showing the more recent final tables).

Max Raker 07-22-2007 06:35 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
Gotta feel pretty good when you call with A high and he flips that over. Too bad it didn't work out. Nice Tourney Shane.

blainestar 07-22-2007 07:10 AM

Re: Matusow calls out Shaniac (aka IDIOT) on Cardplayer.com
 
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Gotta feel pretty good when you call with A high and he flips that over. Too bad it didn't work out. Nice Tourney Shane.

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Yea I love when I call them with A high and they roll over an 18 outer


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