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BeaucoupFish 07-18-2007 09:06 PM

VH1\'s \"The Pick up Artist\"
 
Love or loathe Erik von Markovic, aka Mystery, but he has a show on VH1 starting Monday August 6th @ 9pm.

http://www.vh1mystery.com/

Includes promo.

mbillie1 07-18-2007 09:12 PM

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I saw this clown on Letterman, he seems like a tard

Dan BRIGHT 07-18-2007 09:28 PM

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all that [censored] is fake anyways

DonkeyKongSr 07-18-2007 09:34 PM

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So, is this pickup artist thing all based on the fact that chicks dig gay guys? That's the vibe I'm getting from looking at that dude.

Dan BRIGHT 07-18-2007 09:39 PM

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So, is this pickup artist thing all based on the fact that chicks dig gay guys? That's the vibe I'm getting from looking at that dude.

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shh

The Farside 07-18-2007 10:10 PM

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O/U on number of episodes before cancellation? I say 3.

suzzer99 07-18-2007 10:20 PM

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My dream is this show makes it big and girls stop falling for stupid tricks like this. Then guys with no confidence and no game become all the rage.

russellmj 07-18-2007 10:46 PM

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This dude has a good sized following. Own forum, DVD's, books, the whole shebang. At one time he was even doing paid seminars where you do some classroom work, so to speak, then go out and practice what you learned.

I read some of his material, and even used one of his plays (meeting a girl who's with a group of guys). Basically, chum up to the guys first, then chat up girl. While nothing came of it, it did work to get me "in".

Pokeraddict 07-18-2007 10:48 PM

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O/U on number of episodes before cancellation? I say 3.

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I don't know, everything else on VH1 is trash.

Dan BRIGHT 07-18-2007 11:02 PM

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I read some of his material, and even used one of his plays (meeting a girl who's with a group of guys). Basically, chum up to the guys first, then chat up girl. While nothing came of it, it did work to get me "in".

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hold on, you actually talked to strangers?

Case Closed 07-18-2007 11:02 PM

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So, is this pickup artist thing all based on the fact that chicks dig gay guys? That's the vibe I'm getting from looking at that dude.

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Oh god here we go.

guids 07-18-2007 11:06 PM

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Ive never seen this guy before, he looks like the offspring of tommy lee and chris angel, and raised my richard simmons

MikeHoncho 07-18-2007 11:26 PM

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That guy is heavily featured in Neil Strauss's book The Game. http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrati.../dp/0060554738

The book is a pretty good read for the 1st half or so.

guids 07-18-2007 11:31 PM

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That guy is heavily featured in Neil Strauss's book The Game. http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrati.../dp/0060554738

The book is a pretty good read for the 1st half or so.

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Really? tell us more. Never heard of it.

NozeCandy 07-19-2007 12:05 AM

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PUAs are experts at picking up rape and incest victims.

guids 07-19-2007 12:06 AM

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PUAs are experts at picking up rape and incest victims.

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hahahahahaha........you know what, Ive never thought about this, but this is 100% spot on.

dw2006 07-19-2007 12:12 AM

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Paging Bruiser...

russellmj 07-19-2007 01:25 AM

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hold on, you actually talked to strangers?

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No, they were all my friends from high school, still, it worked like a charm.

Dan BRIGHT 07-19-2007 01:26 AM

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hold on, you actually talked to strangers?

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No, they were all my friends from high school, still, it worked like a charm.

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ive got this pickup move I do called "whip it out and jerk it infront of her" when she isnt continuing to get naked and sexytime. it is expert.

Anacardo 07-19-2007 01:35 AM

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PUAs are experts at picking up rape and incest victims.

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hahahahahaha........you know what, Ive never thought about this, but this is 100% spot on.

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There must be an awful lot of those. How sad and disturbing.

Brian 07-19-2007 02:12 AM

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I think this show will be like Juggler's series, Seduction School, which I really enjoyed. Basically a bunch of virgins/internet forum posters with trouble getting girls. However, the Juggler and Mystery styles are so different that I don't think I'll be able to bring myself to watch it. My bet is that instead of focusing on the guy's internal issues and working to help them be more confident with themselves and thus ultimately women (like the Juggler series), this show will instead be mainly about Mystery's dominant personality and a bunch of cheap gags to "seduce" women. I hope I'm wrong though.

Brian

BeaucoupFish 07-23-2007 03:53 AM

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Paging Bruiser...

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If he was still around, this thread would have hundreds of responses to it by now. Mostly consisting of 2+2 asking for his PUA-camp trip report for the umpteenth time, and Bruiser telling us off for calling Mystery a loser/douche/etc.

I could just copy/paste this post a few dozen times.

Dudd 07-23-2007 03:36 PM

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Why do PUA feel the need to WRITE like THIS? It is so ANNOYING.

DonkBluffer 07-23-2007 03:53 PM

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I actually saw a DVD set about body language (by David DeAngelo) a few days ago, and Mystery is a guest speaker. After he came on the stage I thought "WHAT THE [censored]!". He looked ridiculous. Weird shoes/boots, like 4 watches, weird clothes. But after he started talking I liked him more and more. He really had great charisma or something. Also, he said after a while 'you think I don't realize I look ridiculous? Come on!' or something along those lines, but that he dresses like that for some reason.

I'm wondering, why do you guys dislike these guys so much? Because you think that what they do actually doesn't work and is BS, or because you think that actually working at becoming better at picking up girls is silly?

BeaucoupFish 07-23-2007 04:31 PM

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I'm wondering, why do you guys dislike these guys so much? Because you think that what they do actually doesn't work and is BS, or because you think that actually working at becoming better at picking up girls is silly?

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Here's an analogy that I think works: you can program a Casio keyboard to play Chopin note for note. But its just a Casio...there is no understanding or feeling or emotion. The Mystery Method is about programming and repetition. This, for me, was what I found both fascinating and disturbing at the same time after reading The Game.

Don't for a moment confuse PUA with "picking up girls"...

Droogie 07-23-2007 04:32 PM

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The peacocking Mystery uses is to give other people a reason to talk to him ("why do you wear 4 watches?"). However I doubt most people can get away with dressing as outrageous as it won't be congruent with their look.

suzzer99 07-23-2007 04:37 PM

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I'm wondering, why do you guys dislike these guys so much? Because you think that what they do actually doesn't work and is BS, or because you think that actually working at becoming better at picking up girls is silly?

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I think for me there are some lengths you can go to pick up girls, just like making money, that simply aren't worth it. If I can't meet someone as myself, if I have to rely on some kind of parlor trick that pushes the buttons of hot girls with self-esteem issues, it's not worth it.

I'm a pretty weird dude, but every now and then in life I meet my weird match and we have a cool connection. I wouldn't want to kill that chance, however remote, by acting from a script.

I realize it's not all about neg-hits, and the littler bald dude actually appeals to me a lot more. He seems to emphasize working on your own confidence issues and meeting someone for the long haul. Watching Mystery in action is pretty repulsive to me.

DonkBluffer 07-23-2007 06:03 PM

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I'm wondering, why do you guys dislike these guys so much? Because you think that what they do actually doesn't work and is BS, or because you think that actually working at becoming better at picking up girls is silly?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think for me there are some lengths you can go to pick up girls, just like making money, that simply aren't worth it. If I can't meet someone as myself, if I have to rely on some kind of parlor trick that pushes the buttons of hot girls with self-esteem issues, it's not worth it.

I'm a pretty weird dude, but every now and then in life I meet my weird match and we have a cool connection. I wouldn't want to kill that chance, however remote, by acting from a script.

I realize it's not all about neg-hits, and the littler bald dude actually appeals to me a lot more. He seems to emphasize working on your own confidence issues and meeting someone for the long haul. Watching Mystery in action is pretty repulsive to me.

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Okay, I agree with you guys. I actually only bought some of David DeAngelo's stuff, and he really emphasizes that it's not about tricks or techniques, but about becoming a confident and strong man. Never read any of Mystery's stuff.

Yeti 07-23-2007 06:08 PM

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The peacocking Mystery uses is to give other people a reason to talk to him ("why do you wear 4 watches?"). However I doubt most people can get away with dressing as outrageous as it won't be congruent with their look.

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i saw dario minieri wearing two so maybe hes on the path to tons of chicks (guys?)

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:06 PM

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hold on, you actually talked to strangers?

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No, they were all my friends from high school, still, it worked like a charm.

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ive got this pickup move I do called "whip it out and jerk it infront of her" when she isnt continuing to get naked and sexytime. it is expert.

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Wait...this really is an expert move but it sounds like you're joking.

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:07 PM

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I think this show will be like Juggler's series, Seduction School, which I really enjoyed. Basically a bunch of virgins/internet forum posters with trouble getting girls. However, the Juggler and Mystery styles are so different that I don't think I'll be able to bring myself to watch it. My bet is that instead of focusing on the guy's internal issues and working to help them be more confident with themselves and thus ultimately women (like the Juggler series), this show will instead be mainly about Mystery's dominant personality and a bunch of cheap gags to "seduce" women. I hope I'm wrong though.

Brian

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I agree. There is no way anything Mystery does will be like what Juggler does. One of them is all about authenticity and the other is all about top hats and platform boots.

Oh and this show will of course be excellent in some way or another. Either high unintentional comedy or a compelling look at socially inept guys actually improving themselves.

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:09 PM

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PUAs are experts at picking up rape and incest victims.

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Do you think that a higher % of hot chicks have been raped or been incest victims compared to the % of not hot chicks?

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:12 PM

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Don't for a moment confuse PUA with "picking up girls"...

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PUA means someone who picks up girls. So I think your statement is pretty silly...your previous point has merit but I don't think people put much thought into the alternative of being a social robot. For many guys it's really the only way they can get themselves on the path to "real" social skills with women.

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:13 PM

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I'm wondering, why do you guys dislike these guys so much? Because you think that what they do actually doesn't work and is BS, or because you think that actually working at becoming better at picking up girls is silly?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think for me there are some lengths you can go to pick up girls, just like making money, that simply aren't worth it. If I can't meet someone as myself, if I have to rely on some kind of parlor trick that pushes the buttons of hot girls with self-esteem issues, it's not worth it.

I'm a pretty weird dude, but every now and then in life I meet my weird match and we have a cool connection. I wouldn't want to kill that chance, however remote, by acting from a script.

I realize it's not all about neg-hits, and the littler bald dude actually appeals to me a lot more. He seems to emphasize working on your own confidence issues and meeting someone for the long haul. Watching Mystery in action is pretty repulsive to me.

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It's only about scripted stuff to start with. It's like having a preflop starting hand range in poker (kinda). You're supposed to not need one after you actually develop talent.

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:14 PM

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This dude has a good sized following. Own forum, DVD's, books, the whole shebang. At one time he was even doing paid seminars where you do some classroom work, so to speak, then go out and practice what you learned.

I read some of his material, and even used one of his plays (meeting a girl who's with a group of guys). Basically, chum up to the guys first, then chat up girl. While nothing came of it, it did work to get me "in".

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lol

Yugoslav

suzzer99 07-23-2007 07:17 PM

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Yugo I seem to remember you making like 20 replies in a row the last PUA thread we had. Is this some kind of bombardment strategy to get OOTers to sleep with you?

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:27 PM

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Yugo I seem to remember you making like 20 replies in a row the last PUA thread we had. Is this some kind of bombardment strategy to get OOTers to sleep with you?

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Exactly. The genius of the plan is in its simplicity.

Yugoslav

DonkeyKongSr 07-23-2007 07:28 PM

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Yugo I seem to remember you making like 20 replies in a row the last PUA thread we had. Is this some kind of bombardment strategy to get OOTers to sleep with you?

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Exactly. The genius of the plan is in its simplicity.

Yugoslav

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How you doin'?

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2007 07:35 PM

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Yugo I seem to remember you making like 20 replies in a row the last PUA thread we had. Is this some kind of bombardment strategy to get OOTers to sleep with you?

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Exactly. The genius of the plan is in its simplicity.

Yugoslav

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How you doin'?

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Just chillin' with my top hat and big goggles beating hanger-ons off with a stick. Oh, hey, that reminds me, I need a quick opinion on something.

Who lies more, men or women?

Yugoslav

BeaucoupFish 07-23-2007 09:36 PM

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Don't for a moment confuse PUA with "picking up girls"...

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PUA means someone who picks up girls. So I think your statement is pretty silly...your previous point has merit but I don't think people put much thought into the alternative of being a social robot. For many guys it's really the only way they can get themselves on the path to "real" social skills with women.

Yugoslav

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Did you read The Game? I thought you had. Mystery "programmed" his followers with specific techniques. I mean PUA in this sense, not hotshots who "have game". It was pretty clear that Mystery was not interested in just "picking up girls".

PS Sorry for "all the quotes".

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