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misterwigs 07-17-2007 08:22 AM

10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
No reads. Comments welcome for all streets.

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $2.00
BB: $19.15
UTG: $2.70
Hero (CO): $23.30
BTN: $9.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.60</font>, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.05) Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.90</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.35</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $3.80</font>, Hero calls $1.45

River: ($9.65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $14.35</font>, Hero has to call?

neaera 07-17-2007 08:30 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
I think at NL10 this is often enough an Ace without a K, 8 or 4 as kicker. if its not you have to embrace variance and move on.

so: yes

molotom 07-17-2007 08:43 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
You are ahead of his range unless he is a total nit. If you think he is capable of calling OOP with A8 here, then he's also calling OOP with A9,AT,AJ,AQ and is not letting go of them when the flop comes AAx.

After his turn donkbet/min3bet line you have to conclude he's a tard, his range here is Ax,KK which you have crushed. It's also less likely he has AK/KK since he didn't 3-bet preflop (even if he is dumb). I am more than happy to get it in here.

Mingdu 07-17-2007 08:44 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
There is a reason zeebo works ... because it is usually a good idea to stay with a boat

Anyways, you are crushing his range here

55offsuit 07-17-2007 09:11 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
I'm not scared of AK, KK, A8 or A4 here. I call.

Fiksdal 07-17-2007 09:28 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
This could surely be any ace. Villain is somewhat likely to have 3bet preflop with AK. If he has A4 or A8 its variance. Beat him into the pot plz.

Bad Beat Maker 07-17-2007 09:38 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
[censored] call this. You got it man! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] GL

corsakh 07-17-2007 10:09 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
Hero runs to cash his car, mortgage, bank account and shoves it in.

mattnxtc 07-17-2007 10:29 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
He has a naked ace here a lot..instacall

Unknown Soldier 07-17-2007 10:39 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
4b turn

corsakh 07-17-2007 10:43 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
Not to mention I saw a flush draw here once. With no 8c on the board, its quite possible.

HojoMofo 07-17-2007 10:56 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
[ QUOTE ]
4b turn

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nukewell 07-17-2007 11:05 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
gets it in, u beat alot and lose to a few

skiller3 07-17-2007 11:09 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
Super instacall.

Also, raise more on the turn.

Warteen 07-17-2007 11:54 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
This is certainly a call.

ImprovinNewbie 07-17-2007 11:59 AM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
4 bet him AI on the turn. im pretty sure if you are now thinking about having folded this some where he had some weird KK, A8 or AK

Capitan23 07-17-2007 12:03 PM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
ez call

sweetkness 07-17-2007 12:13 PM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
I agree....four bet the turn, all in preferably. Almost all donks will call with the naked A, even worse than that.

misterwigs 07-17-2007 08:01 PM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
Thanks for the comments everyone.

I knew I was way ahead of his range on the flop, however, after the min3bet it occurred to me that not everyone 3bets AK pf. My thoughts were that, given I raised pf he could probably give me credit for a decent A and his 3bet then river AI seemed to say "I don't care about your crappy trip Aces".

I eventually called for fear that my fellow 2p2ers would mock me mercilessly if I did not. He flips AT and the monies get shipped.

07-17-2007 08:07 PM

Re: 10NL - Thinking of folding a flopped boat
 
nh


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