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Luisgallo 07-13-2007 12:07 PM

27$ PS - straight early
 
How do you like it?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1550)
MP2 (t1490)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1260)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1710)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t80, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t250) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t280</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t180.

Turn: (t810) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1130</font>, Hero calls t130.

River: (t3070) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3070

TruFloridaGator 07-13-2007 12:15 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
That board is super scary, I'd either c/r the flop a ton or if you are going to lead bet way more on the flop and then it's a super easy shove when he raises.

PF is pretty meh.

Luisgallo 07-13-2007 12:23 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
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That board is super scary, I'd either c/r the flop a ton or if you are going to lead bet way more on the flop and then it's a super easy shove when he raises.

PF is pretty meh.

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Do you really put villain on AK here?
Also I tend to fold 70% of the time PF, but it really costed me 60 to see a 240 pot with a hand that I did not dislike.

Pudge714 07-13-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
Fold preflop.
If you lead the flop bet more and bet/3bet.
As played I think you might need to c/f turn.

Little John 07-13-2007 12:59 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
3 bet all in on the flop. you are way ahead of his range and it is good to get them in before a scare card comes on the turn that may make villian shutdown.

Kibby 07-13-2007 01:17 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
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3 bet all in on the flop. you are way ahead of his range and it is good to get them in before a scare card comes on the turn that may make villian shutdown.

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ChipLeader 07-13-2007 02:28 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
Youre playing a position hand from first to act, this is why youre having so many problems. What exactly do you put villain on, you said in another post you dont give him credit for AK, so what does he have? Is he really going pedal to the metal with TPTK on this board, possibly, but could also be a set that he was building a nice pot with on a scary flop. Could be AK, KK, AQ. I think youre behind too often and i think calling OOP is what put you in a position to get stacked when behind and pick up smaller pots when ahead.

Also, even when youre (luckily) ahead and get a call, he has at least 7-10 outs (4 to gutshot, +3 if open ended with a K, 2 to Q, 1 to T.

As played, i really dont know if its worth just shoving and praying on flop, i definitely dont like the turn committing call. Great example of why all the better players put so much importance on position.

Kevin8423 07-13-2007 02:29 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
Bet more on the flop, something like 175, and shove over his raise. No reason to give him a turn card against your made straight.

justatrey 07-13-2007 03:33 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
Biggest mistake is calling preflop imo.

wulfpacker21 07-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
fold pre flop and be very aggressive with this flop... you have the dumb end of the draw so i try and take the pot on the flop

Mench 07-13-2007 06:24 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
agree with pudge.

Shillx 07-13-2007 07:38 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
Easy turn fold imo

SilverLocks 07-14-2007 03:38 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
Position - Position - Position - Fold pre-flop...

AMT 07-14-2007 05:14 PM

Re: 27$ PS - straight early
 
i agree with folding pf, youre not in position and this just isnt the type of hand that youre going to be able to get value of being oop vs two opponents on most flops you hit. youll often either win a small pot or lose a big one.

On the flop you need to bet/3bet, there are so many bad turn cards for your hand.

on the turn, you should consider giving up as AK is a huge part of his range here, sets filled up and the like, but between pf and flop its just meh at this point.


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