Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Any chance you guys can tantalize us with a full Table of Contents? Pretty please with a cherry on top?

Ryan

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Isn't this book coming out the 27th?

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

I'll ask Mason. I only have the TOC in PDF format.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Cool, thanks.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Cool, indeed.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

It says on the front page of 2+2 that the shipping date is July 20th. Can anyone (Mason) confirm that the gambler's book club will have a copy on that day? I happen to be in Vegas from the 15-20th and would purchase a copy if they have on that day.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

i pre ordered the book from profpoker in vegas and got the amazon price= great deal. My understanding is it will be published 7/20 and mailed monday

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Hi Mark:

I just returned from the printer and it appears that binding will start on the 18th. If that's the case, we could have some books on the 19th, but I'm not sure which of the two new books will be done first. This also means that we should begin shipping books out of our office on the 20th as announced, but it is unlikely, though not impossible, that Gambler's Book Club or Gambler's General Store will have them that day.

Best wishes,
Mason

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Thanks Mason. I had never heard of the Gambler's General Store. I guess I will just call each of them when I am there on the 20th and see if they have them.

If not, I will have to wait to order it online. I'm not in a huge rush, but the convenience factor is always nice.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Table of Contents

About Matt Flynn vii

About Sunny Mehta ix

About Ed Miller xi

Acknowledgements xiii

Introduction 1

It Depends 5

Part One: The Basics 7
Introduction 8
Odds and Outs 9
. Pot Odds 9
. Outs 10
. Discounted Outs 12
. Outs and Odds 13
. Implied Odds 15
. Putting it Together 17
Bet Sizes 21
Absolute Versus Relative Dollars 21
. Betting the “Pot” 24
. What Size is Best? 25
. Final Thoughts 29
Stack Sizes 31
. The Basics 31
. The Table Stakes Rule 31
. Consequences of the Table Stakes Rule 32
. No-Limit Should Be Called Stack-Limit 33
. Effective Stack Sizes 33
. Stack Sizes and Strategy 34
. Stack Sizes and Hand Descriptions 37
. Short, Medium, and Deep Stacks 37
. Why Do We Care About Short Versus Deep
. Stack Sizes? 40
. Summary 42

Part Two: The Fundamentals 45
Introduction 46
Pot Size 48
. Risk Versus Reward 48
. Win Money, Not Pots 50
. Big Pots Versus Small Pots 51
. How To Play a Big Pot 54
. Final Thoughts 54
Commitment 56
Pot Control 65
. The Basics 65
. Some Exceptions 68
. Final Thoughts 72
Position 74
Hand Reading 81
Fundamentals In Practice 85

Part Three: The REM Process 95
Introduction 96
The REM Process — R is for Range of Hands 99
. Know Your Opponents, Observe Their Tendencies 100
. . Preflop Standards 100
. . Betting Patterns or Amounts in Various
. . . Situations 101
. . Particular Actions on Specific Streets or with
. . Specific Hand Types 101
. . Physical Tells 102
. . Betting Pace 102
. Putting It Together 102
. Reassess 103
. Position and Hand Reading 104
. Summary 105
The REM Process — E is for Equity 107
. Calculating Equity Against a Range of Hands 108
. Shortcuts 110
. Folding Equity 112
. Final Thoughts 115
The REM Process — M is for Maximize 117
. The Effect of Checking 117
. Reasons To Bet or Raise 119
. . Value Betting: When You Want Them In 119
. . Bluffing: When You Want Them Out 122
. . When You’re Not Sure 125
. Folding, Calling, or Raising With Drawing Hands 125
. Final Thoughts 130
REM in Action 131

Part Four: Planning Hands Around Commitment 139
Introduction 140
The Commitment Threshold 142
. The Commitment Threshold 146
. The Commitment Threshold Threat 147
. Timing of the Commitment Threshold 147
. When You Are at the Commitment Threshold and Not
. . Committed 149
. Exceptions 152
. When You Are at the Commitment Threshold and
. . Committed 153
. Commitment Thresholds in Multiway Pots 155
. More Hand Examples 156
. Exceptions Revisited 157
. Summary 162
Stack-To-Pot Ratios: Introduction 164
. Balancing Risk Versus Reward 164
. A Hand Without A Plan 166
. A Mental Barrier 167
. Replay 168
. Planning For Commitment 170
. Risk Versus Reward Revisited 171
. Defining Stack-to-Pot Ratios 173
. Max SPRs and Target SPRs 175
Playing Top Pair with SPR 179
. SPR Makes Postflop Play Easier 179
. Top Pairs Have Triskaidekaphobia 180
. Two Pot-Sized Bets Is Better 183
. Four Is Often Better Than Three 183
Target SPRs 186
Estimating Target SPRs 188
. Hand Strength 188
. Opponent Tendencies 189
. Target SPRs For Specific Hands Against Different
. . Opponents 190
. . Top Pair/Overpair 190
. . Target Practice 191
. . More Target Practice 195
. . When You Can’t Hit Your Target 197
. . Playing With High SPRs 198
. . Drawing Hands 200
. . Drawing Hands Work With Middle or High SPRs 205
. Evaluating Starting Hands 206
. . Overpair Hands 207
. . Top Pair Hands 208
. . Drawing Hands 209
. . Final Thoughts 210
Creating Target SPRs 211
. Some Background On Preflop Raising 211
. Variables Affecting SPRs 213
. A Note on Mixing It Up 219
. Remember Triskaidekaphobia 221
. More Shortcuts 221
. Final Thoughts 222
Target SPR Examples 223
. Final Thoughts 233
Making Adjustments 234
. Multiway Pots 234
. Reraised Pots and Limped Pots 236
. Adjusting to Multiple Different Stack Sizes 238
. Getting Money In Preflop With The Best Hand 239
. Playing with Position 241
. Adjusting to Coordinated Boards 242
. Maximizing Postflop 244
. Adjusting to New Information 246
When SPR Doesn’t Work 249
. Sometimes Your Opponents Don’t Cooperate 249
. Some SPR Strategies Don’t Work With Certain Stack
. . Sizes 250
. You Need All-Ins To Happen Sometimes 250
Using SPR to Choose Postflop Betting Lines 252
Betting to Get All-in 255
SPR — Putting It All Together 257

Part Five: Planning in Practice 267
Introduction 268
Planning in Practice 269
. Once Around 269
. Second Orbit 282
. Final Thoughts 292

Conclusion 295

Appendix A: No-Limit Rules and Etiquette 297
. No-Limit Rules 297
. No-Limit Etiquette 302

Appendix B: Odds and Outs 305

Index 307

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Professional No-Limit and Harry Potter 7 the same weekend! I'm so happy I'm crying! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Mason, do you think having the Harry Potter book released the same weekend will impact sales at all? Don't you think the book will sell better if you waited an additional week?

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

hmmm doesn't look like short handed play is covered at all. when is part 2 due out?

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

LOL @ Triskaidekaphobia !

50 Sklansky Bucks to anyone who knows what that means!

(Not you, Matt.)

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

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LOL @ Triskaidekaphobia !

50 Sklansky Bucks to anyone who knows what that means!



[/ QUOTE ] A quick google search gives "An abnormal fear of the number 13". Maybe its a reference to top pair being tricky to play if SPR is 13 or greater? Certainly intriguing...

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

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hmmm doesn't look like short handed play is covered at all. when is part 2 due out?

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about four months after we finish it.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

From the TOC this looks like it's shaping up to be a pretty strong offering.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

i guess im in love =)

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

im stoked!!! im gonna buy it right now!!

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From the TOC this looks like it's shaping up to be a pretty strong offering.

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I was thinking the same thing myself, and that most of the content seems to apply to play after the flop.

My bankroll can't wait for me to get my hands on this.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

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LOL @ Triskaidekaphobia !

50 Sklansky Bucks to anyone who knows what that means!



[/ QUOTE ] A quick google search gives...

[/ QUOTE ]

BOOOO!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

No Sklansky Bucks for you!

Man, trivia games in the internet age are just no fun at all...

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Looks like they'll be expanding on the concepts presented in NLTAP and adding quite a bit more to the "observing other players" part that seems to get skipped over in most books.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
LOL @ Triskaidekaphobia !

50 Sklansky Bucks to anyone who knows what that means!



[/ QUOTE ] A quick google search gives "An abnormal fear of the number 13". Maybe its a reference to top pair being tricky to play if SPR is 13 or greater? Certainly intriguing...

[/ QUOTE ]

If there's a pot-sized bet on all three streets, then each player will put in 13x the preflop pot over the flop, turn, and river combined. Is that where this is coming from?

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Excellent, thank you Mason

Regards,
Carl

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Are there any stores in LA that are the equivelent to "gamblers general store" in vegas? Meaning will likely get the book very close to the release date?

Am going to be visiting LA for a few weeks right around the books release date, and would love to read it on the vacation. Waiting till I get back to toronto will be agonizing :P

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cant wait to read about REM

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

No. Your best bet might be to order it from us and then have it shipped to your LA address. Those will be the first purchasers to get the book.

Best wishes,
Mason

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

I think this book is going to be amazing, how many volumes are there going to published? What are the shipping costs for European countries? I live in the Netherlands.

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What are the shipping costs for European countries? I live in the Netherlands.

[/ QUOTE ]

check out bookbutler.com (search for 188068540X)

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

Thanks Mason! If I wasn't drooling before, I'm certainly drooling now. I now understand what Ed Miller meant when he said he truly didn't "understand" no-limit until he read this manuscript. This, for me, is the most exciting poker publication I have ever awaited.

Ryan

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[ QUOTE ]
Table of Contents

About Matt Flynn vii

About Sunny Mehta ix

About Ed Miller xi

Acknowledgements xiii

Introduction 1

It Depends 5

Part One: The Basics 7
Introduction 8
Odds and Outs 9
. Pot Odds 9
. Outs 10
. Discounted Outs 12
. Outs and Odds 13
. Implied Odds 15
. Putting it Together 17
Bet Sizes 21
Absolute Versus Relative Dollars 21
. Betting the “Pot” 24
. What Size is Best? 25
. Final Thoughts 29
Stack Sizes 31
. The Basics 31
. The Table Stakes Rule 31
. Consequences of the Table Stakes Rule 32
. No-Limit Should Be Called Stack-Limit 33
. Effective Stack Sizes 33
. Stack Sizes and Strategy 34
. Stack Sizes and Hand Descriptions 37
. Short, Medium, and Deep Stacks 37
. Why Do We Care About Short Versus Deep
. Stack Sizes? 40
. Summary 42

Part Two: The Fundamentals 45
Introduction 46
Pot Size 48
. Risk Versus Reward 48
. Win Money, Not Pots 50
. Big Pots Versus Small Pots 51
. How To Play a Big Pot 54
. Final Thoughts 54
Commitment 56
Pot Control 65
. The Basics 65
. Some Exceptions 68
. Final Thoughts 72
Position 74
Hand Reading 81
Fundamentals In Practice 85

Part Three: The REM Process 95
Introduction 96
The REM Process — R is for Range of Hands 99
. Know Your Opponents, Observe Their Tendencies 100
. . Preflop Standards 100
. . Betting Patterns or Amounts in Various
. . . Situations 101
. . Particular Actions on Specific Streets or with
. . Specific Hand Types 101
. . Physical Tells 102
. . Betting Pace 102
. Putting It Together 102
. Reassess 103
. Position and Hand Reading 104
. Summary 105
The REM Process — E is for Equity 107
. Calculating Equity Against a Range of Hands 108
. Shortcuts 110
. Folding Equity 112
. Final Thoughts 115
The REM Process — M is for Maximize 117
. The Effect of Checking 117
. Reasons To Bet or Raise 119
. . Value Betting: When You Want Them In 119
. . Bluffing: When You Want Them Out 122
. . When You’re Not Sure 125
. Folding, Calling, or Raising With Drawing Hands 125
. Final Thoughts 130
REM in Action 131

Part Four: Planning Hands Around Commitment 139
Introduction 140
The Commitment Threshold 142
. The Commitment Threshold 146
. The Commitment Threshold Threat 147
. Timing of the Commitment Threshold 147
. When You Are at the Commitment Threshold and Not
. . Committed 149
. Exceptions 152
. When You Are at the Commitment Threshold and
. . Committed 153
. Commitment Thresholds in Multiway Pots 155
. More Hand Examples 156
. Exceptions Revisited 157
. Summary 162
Stack-To-Pot Ratios: Introduction 164
. Balancing Risk Versus Reward 164
. A Hand Without A Plan 166
. A Mental Barrier 167
. Replay 168
. Planning For Commitment 170
. Risk Versus Reward Revisited 171
. Defining Stack-to-Pot Ratios 173
. Max SPRs and Target SPRs 175
Playing Top Pair with SPR 179
. SPR Makes Postflop Play Easier 179
. Top Pairs Have Triskaidekaphobia 180
. Two Pot-Sized Bets Is Better 183
. Four Is Often Better Than Three 183
Target SPRs 186
Estimating Target SPRs 188
. Hand Strength 188
. Opponent Tendencies 189
. Target SPRs For Specific Hands Against Different
. . Opponents 190
. . Top Pair/Overpair 190
. . Target Practice 191
. . More Target Practice 195
. . When You Can’t Hit Your Target 197
. . Playing With High SPRs 198
. . Drawing Hands 200
. . Drawing Hands Work With Middle or High SPRs 205
. Evaluating Starting Hands 206
. . Overpair Hands 207
. . Top Pair Hands 208
. . Drawing Hands 209
. . Final Thoughts 210
Creating Target SPRs 211
. Some Background On Preflop Raising 211
. Variables Affecting SPRs 213
. A Note on Mixing It Up 219
. Remember Triskaidekaphobia 221
. More Shortcuts 221
. Final Thoughts 222
Target SPR Examples 223
. Final Thoughts 233
Making Adjustments 234
. Multiway Pots 234
. Reraised Pots and Limped Pots 236
. Adjusting to Multiple Different Stack Sizes 238
. Getting Money In Preflop With The Best Hand 239
. Playing with Position 241
. Adjusting to Coordinated Boards 242
. Maximizing Postflop 244
. Adjusting to New Information 246
When SPR Doesn’t Work 249
. Sometimes Your Opponents Don’t Cooperate 249
. Some SPR Strategies Don’t Work With Certain Stack
. . Sizes 250
. You Need All-Ins To Happen Sometimes 250
Using SPR to Choose Postflop Betting Lines 252
Betting to Get All-in 255
SPR — Putting It All Together 257

Part Five: Planning in Practice 267
Introduction 268
Planning in Practice 269
. Once Around 269
. Second Orbit 282
. Final Thoughts 292

Conclusion 295

Appendix A: No-Limit Rules and Etiquette 297
. No-Limit Rules 297
. No-Limit Etiquette 302

Appendix B: Odds and Outs 305

Index 307

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Awesome. Just awesome. Thanks 2+2, Matt, Sunny and all involved.

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Holla ... tho unlike many I can't see much earth shattering here, still very nice and solid.


Now Matt and Sunny, get to work on vol. 2 ... and blow us away [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Let's gogogogogogogo

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unlike many I can't see much earth shattering here

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Yeah, I didn't think the c-bet was all that earth shattering, but now that I do it more often....

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Why Do We Care About Short Versus Deep
Stack Sizes? 40

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Hahahahaha, Ive been asking this question for a while.

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guys, thanks a lot for the kind words....seriously....we put our hearts, minds, and sweat into this book for the past year and a half, so all the positive remarks are really nice - particularly after we've constantly been so critical and scrutinizing of ourselves.....can't wait for you guys to read it....

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we put our hearts, minds, and sweat into this book for the past year and a half, so all the positive remarks are really nice - particularly after we've constantly been so critical and scrutinizing of ourselves

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You think you've been under scrutiny so far? Just wait until we get our hands on it.

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Professional No-Limit and Harry Potter 7 the same weekend! I'm so happy I'm crying! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Me too! In a strange twist of fate and procrastination, (and my own weird compulsion with 'completeness') I'm probably going to wait on Harry Potter until I re-read the entire series. That leaves PNL at the top of my most anxiously awaited titles!

On a side note;
If no one does it in the next few days (and no one objects (Mason)), I might add the TOC listing to a comment over on amazon. I've noticed that few, if any of the 2+2 books use the 'look inside' feature. Reading a table of contents frequently influences my purchasing decisions - and this TOC is golden. Thanks for the post Mason!

- dubiousdrift

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

I ordered a few days ago. I really hope it gets sent on the 20th.

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
LOL @ Triskaidekaphobia !

50 Sklansky Bucks to anyone who knows what that means!



[/ QUOTE ] A quick google search gives "An abnormal fear of the number 13". Maybe its a reference to top pair being tricky to play if SPR is 13 or greater? Certainly intriguing...

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

If you live in Europe, which is the fastest way to get the book? Order from conjelco or amazon.co.uk?

Re: Professional No-Limit Holdem: Volume 1 - Question
 

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If you live in Europe, which is the fastest way to get the book? Order from conjelco or amazon.co.uk?

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You will get if from Conjelco much faster.