Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

I never post here, but there it is, my first post...

WTF is that?? Could it be collusion?? I realy don't understand. He would get a penality at the WSOP for that!


Full Tilt Poker Game #2910630924: Table Brookview (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:14:44 ET - 2007/07/10

Seat 1: DaFool ($108,891.50)
Seat 2: bacina ($12,746)
Seat 3: John Juanda ($11,896)
Seat 4: Shahin83 ($69,371)
Seat 5: Sydney Dean ($7,600)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($33,152)

Sydney Dean posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4

DaFool folds
bacina folds
John Juanda folds
Shahin83 raises to $1,400
Sydney Dean folds
David Benyamine calls $1,000

*** FLOP *** [Kh 5s As]

David Benyamine checks
Shahin83 bets $2,400
David Benyamine calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [Kh 5s As] [4d]
David Benyamine checks
Shahin83 checks
*** RIVER *** [Kh 5s As 4d] [Qc]
David Benyamine bets $6,800
Shahin83 raises to $17,500
David Benyamine calls $10,700 <<---Ultimate nuts !!??!!

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Shahin83 shows [Ah 6c Ts Th] a pair of Aces
David Benyamine shows [Kd Tc 5d Jc] a straight, Ace high
David Benyamine wins the pot ($42,797) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42,800 | Rake $3
Board: [Kh 5s As 4d Qc]
Seat 1: DaFool didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: bacina didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: John Juanda didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Shahin83 (button) showed [Ah 6c Ts Th] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Sydney Dean (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [Kd Tc 5d Jc] and won ($42,797) with a straight, Ace high
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Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

or you know, a misclick.

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

benyamine is just a mongoloid

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

or maybe a simple misclick or misread

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He clearly knew Shahin83 must have the nuts as well and didn't want to unnecessarily increase the rake.

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"unnecessarily increase the rake. "

3 rd lvl at least

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he knew shahin was bluffing but wanted to know what he had

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he knew shahin was bluffing but wanted to know what he had

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cmon, your losing credibility.

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he knew shahin was bluffing but wanted to know what he had

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cmon, your losing credibility.

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its really not that far off. It is very possible david did this to see his cards. If he raises, hes only going to get called by the same hand so what is the point, why not get some info

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

It's very common not to put in the third raise with broadway nuts in omaha.

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

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or you know, a misclick.

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Threads accusing High stakes pros of collusion are so gay. PLZ stop crap like this or ban ppl who do this w/o evidence, sofakingretarded.

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It's very common not to put in the third raise with broadway nuts in omaha.

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on the river with no flush possible?

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posts accusing posters of being gay like it's an insult are sofakingretarded.

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PLZ stop crap like this or ban ppl who do this

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:rolls eyes:

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

rake is capped at 3

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rake is capped at 3rd level

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Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

Have you ever watched an sbrugby video? If he's anything to go off of, ultra high stakes players misclick at least once every 3rd hand.

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

Don't you realize how much DB likes to call bets.

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the doorbell rang with 3 large pizzas and he couldnt risk them getting cold.

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the doorbell rang with

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Don't you realize how much DB likes to call bets.

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exactly

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

aggressive call

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

I don't think collusion works in heads up pots.

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or you know, a misclick.

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Threads accusing High stakes pros of collusion are so gay. PLZ stop crap like this or ban ppl who do this w/o evidence, sofakingretarded.

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are you a HSNL player that people could learn a thing or two from?

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

He's new to the game...obv

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he knew shahin was bluffing but wanted to know what he had

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cmon, your losing credibility.

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its really not that far off. It is very possible david did this to see his cards. If he raises, hes only going to get called by the same hand so what is the point, why not get some info

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this makes most sense to me, a misclick is possible too. I don't believe even this game is aggro enough for a 3 bet here to ever be called by less than the nuts.

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

sure, but like staking booooostedJ, there is 100% no risk in raising that river.

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sure, but like staking booooostedJ, there is 100% no risk in raising that river.

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I lol'd

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

Lol does degenyamine ever sleep? Everytime he's in a game.

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call for info. ldo.

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

not being the most athletic of fellows he probably just calculated that the ev of having to click bet pot and then raise was less than that of being able to just click call and eat another spoonful of cheesecake...

also, there is no collusion in HU pots - did you never play on Stars during the softplaying era?

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no i wasnt but i am interested - who was involved? twin and H@LL ???

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aggressive call

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Misclic for sure. Collusion in a HU'pot ? ...I don't see the point. Actually "soft-play" would be more appropriate than collusion.

- jpp

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maybe he misread the Qc as the Qs and thought there was a flush possible? not too unlikely if he's not using 4 color deck

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It's very common not to put in the third raise with broadway nuts in omaha.

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Yea ive seen benyamine shut down like this many, many times. Seems standard.

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Forgot it was just high omaha instead of H/L, thought he was at best splitting and maybe getting quartered for the high?

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not being the most athletic of fellows he probably just calculated that the ev of having to click bet pot and then raise was less than that of being able to just click call and eat another spoonful of cheesecake...

also, there is no collusion in HU pots - did you never play on Stars during the softplaying era?

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he is actually a pretty good tennis player apparently

Re: Possible collusion on tilt with Benyamine ?
 

he was a great tennis palyer in his prime. ex pro even i think...

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ya the perceived flush is for sure your answer. He's tired, it goes spade spade club, he calls too quickly seeing the black. Whatever I've done that. Even on flops club club spade and I have the Ac, thinking I have 4 flush. Just when these guys do it, it's a 40k mistake, lol

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he was a great tennis palyer in his prime. ex pro even i think...

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He said on HSP he was going to make a comeback. Workouts, diet ...