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skitzo444 07-10-2007 11:20 AM

Atlantic city sucks
 
I was trying to get to AC from Ventnor which is aprox 2 mile south. I was traveling North on Atlantic when all of a sudden a cop pulls in front of me and blocks the lane. He gets out and starts redirecting traffic to Ventnor ave. Okay.. I turn right on ventnor and go another 4 or 5 blocks when theres another cop redurecting traffic back to Atlantic ave. ghay....I turn back to atlantic and theres another cop at that intersection redirecting traffic back SOUTH. So at that point I give up trying to get to AC and go to Ocean City to play Family Guy pinball and Galaga.

I never found out the reason they were redirecting traffic.

skitzo444 07-10-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
Why were they redirecting traffic this past Saturday?

The B 07-10-2007 11:38 AM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
everybody knows this city sucks, and is dirty, and has ugly hookers but...they also have casinos, and in those casinos you can gamble

skitzo444 07-10-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
I only changed the title because no one can answer my question

pacecar86 07-10-2007 12:12 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
haen't been back to AC since upon checkin at really nice property found giant cumstain on headboard...guy comes up cleans it & left, mgmt makes no comment &no apology or offer of room move/upgrade

F0rtysxity 07-10-2007 12:19 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
ummmm so where is this Family Guy pinball?

StrictlyStrategy 07-10-2007 12:56 PM

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haen't been back to AC since upon checkin at really nice property found giant cumstain on headboard...guy comes up cleans it & left, mgmt makes no comment &no apology or offer of room move/upgrade

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How can you tell a story like this and not name the hotel?

No Fizzle 07-10-2007 12:59 PM

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haen't been back to AC since upon checkin at really nice property found giant cumstain on headboard

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Accuracy AND distance. Color me impressed.

eastcoaster 07-10-2007 01:48 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
Yep, AC sucks.

Now leave, Shoobie.

skitzo444 07-10-2007 02:01 PM

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ummmm so where is this Family Guy pinball?

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I bet every arcade has one but I parked at 13th and Wesley and it was the first arcadeas I started walking North.

questions 07-10-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
I hate AC, the most depressing place I think anywhere. So why does anyone go there?

skitzo444 07-10-2007 02:23 PM

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I hate AC, the most depressing place I think anywhere. So why does anyone go there?

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Only place you can get deep fried snickers and a BJ in the car for < $20

Eponymous 07-10-2007 11:54 PM

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I hate AC, the most depressing place I think anywhere. So why does anyone go there?

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Have you ever been to the Borgata? It's an oasis in the AC desert. The rest of the AC casinos are no worse than downtown Vegas, and parts of it are becoming more like the Vegas strip. Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

vhawk01 07-11-2007 12:56 AM

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I hate AC, the most depressing place I think anywhere. So why does anyone go there?

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Have you ever been to the Borgata? It's an oasis in the AC desert. The rest of the AC casinos are no worse than downtown Vegas, and parts of it are becoming more like the Vegas strip. Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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I was at Caesar's Thurs-Sat and it was hopping. Not sure what games you are looking for though, this was mostly 1/2 and 2/5.

Eponymous 07-11-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
I play mostly limit, and they seem to usually have trouble even getting 3/6 games going. I'm just now starting to play NL a little more, so maybe I should check it out more often. Thanks.

pacino 07-11-2007 09:25 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
I noticed all the cops out directing traffic too. I have no friggin clue as to why. It seemed entirely random.

BillD 07-12-2007 12:06 AM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
I think there were a couple of big fires in AC this past weekend. The police may have been directing traffic away from the fire.

On Ocean City, my idea of hell on earth. No booze (even though I quit drinking), kids and bicyles everywhere, everyplace closes at 9, etc.

City slogans:

Atlantic City: Always turned on.
Ocean City: Still waiting for Prometheus.

zerocarb 07-12-2007 08:32 AM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
Yes, a fire. Not sure why you wouldn't just walk down the boardwalk from Ventnor anyway, unless you're going to Harrah's or Borgata.

From the "Press of Atlantic City":

ATLANTIC CITY — A two-alarm fire Saturday caused no major injuries, but threw a major wrench into traffic on one of the resort's busiest weekends.
Firefighters responded to the blaze at 3:38 p.m. on Trenton Terrace, between South Harrisburg and South Trenton avenues. Fire Chief Dennis Brooks said the fire most likely started as an exterior trash fire that spread to the structure.

The warehouse contained lots of fiberglass products, which helped accelerate the flames, Brooks said. Firefighters cut a ventilation hole into the roof of the one-story warehouse, which prevented the fire from spreading to adjacent apartment buildings at 3807 and 3809 Atlantic Ave., Brooks said.

W brad 07-12-2007 10:06 AM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
AC needs a monorail. 4 stops on the boardwalk, 2 in the Marina and one at the big parking garage they should build near the intersection of the AC Expressway and the Garden State Parkway.

punkass 07-12-2007 10:14 AM

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AC needs a monorail. 4 stops on the boardwalk, 2 in the Marina and one at the big parking garage they should build near the intersection of the AC Expressway and the Garden State Parkway.

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god no

questions 07-12-2007 10:41 AM

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Have you ever been to the Borgata? It's an oasis in the AC desert. The rest of the AC casinos are no worse than downtown Vegas, and parts of it are becoming more like the Vegas strip. Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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I have been to the Borgata, and I like the physical structure, though it's confusing to get around all those slots and difficult to get to the pokerroom (if you don't already know how to get there). I think the idea in designing the hotel was that "if we build it in AC but away from the boardwalk, we'll get a classier clientele with more money" (notice that none of the charter buses or greyhound stop there) which may be how it's worked out for them (I know they are doing exceedingly well financially), but sorry, I would appreciate better access from the boardwalk. I also think that the staff there tries too hard to create an "exclusive" aura, and in the process, behave rudely, which - for a casino which is trying to be classy to have classless staff - um, I don't get it. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

But maybe I'm just too negative. I'll give it another try next time.

nineinchal 07-12-2007 10:48 AM

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haen't been back to AC since upon checkin at really nice property found giant cumstain on headboard...guy comes up cleans it & left, mgmt makes no comment &no apology or offer of room move/upgrade

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How can you tell a story like this and not name the hotel?

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It was the Taj. Trump let one fly after pulling out of Amorosa before he fired her. I can't believe you didn't see that one on pornotube.

chillrob 07-12-2007 11:34 AM

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Have you ever been to the Borgata? It's an oasis in the AC desert. The rest of the AC casinos are no worse than downtown Vegas, and parts of it are becoming more like the Vegas strip. Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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I have been to the Borgata, and I like the physical structure, though it's confusing to get around all those slots and difficult to get to the pokerroom (if you don't already know how to get there). I think the idea in designing the hotel was that "if we build it in AC but away from the boardwalk, we'll get a classier clientele with more money" (notice that none of the charter buses or greyhound stop there) which may be how it's worked out for them (I know they are doing exceedingly well financially), but sorry, I would appreciate better access from the boardwalk. I also think that the staff there tries too hard to create an "exclusive" aura, and in the process, behave rudely, which - for a casino which is trying to be classy to have classless staff - um, I don't get it. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

But maybe I'm just too negative. I'll give it another try next time.

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It is very easy to get to the Borgata poker room if you park in the surface lot - just walk up to the building (I've never had to park far away), in the door, walk left past the sportsbook and you're there!

NickMPK 07-12-2007 12:26 PM

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AC needs a monorail. 4 stops on the boardwalk, 2 in the Marina and one at the big parking garage they should build near the intersection of the AC Expressway and the Garden State Parkway.

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This seems excessive, considering that the Jitney service is really excellent on the boardwalk. And though it can take some time to get from marina <--> boardwalk on the jitney (esp. Borgata), it will still get you there for $2.

NickMPK 07-12-2007 12:31 PM

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Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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Is this really true? As of when I was there last week, the Sands building was still standing there taking up space. Completely replacing a boardwalk casino seems like a massive undertaking that AFAIK was still in the planning stages. I have a hard time believing they will have three new Borgatas built and opened within three years.

nineinchal 07-12-2007 01:08 PM

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Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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Is this really true? As of when I was there last week, the Sands building was still standing there taking up space. Completely replacing a boardwalk casino seems like a massive undertaking that AFAIK was still in the planning stages. I have a hard time believing they will have three new Borgatas built and opened within three years.

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Slot revenues in AC are declining.

Slots are up in Philly. I can't believe Philly will be letting AC keep an edge by not offering table games.


Florida is getting the poker crap cleared up in a few weeks. They are also bringing in craps and BJ.


Yonkers raceway has slots now. They are renovating the Boardwalk in Coney Island in Brooklyn. My lawyer freind went to a golf outing the other day about renovating the boardwalk in Rockaway with a bunch of city and state legislators. I can't believe NY won't find some excuse to bring in the gambling.

I do not believe all the new casino projects will be started in AC since they will not be profitable with the new gambling in PA and NY

Gonso 07-12-2007 02:15 PM

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Yep, AC sucks.

Now leave, Shoobie.

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QFT + learn how to [censored] drive.

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I do not believe all the new casino projects will be started in AC since they will not be profitable with the new gambling in PA and NY

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A decline in revenue doesn't mean they're not still profitable. They are. It's like a $5 billion dollar industry here still, the problem is that the casinos here are relatively old. The higher end casinos here are having no revenue problems whatsoever.

Killing off the Sands was a good start, getting rid of a couple others and putting up some nicer ones will go a long way.

chillrob 07-12-2007 03:21 PM

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I would think that the fact that PA is getting casinos would mean that AC would have to up the ante in order to compete, and will try to do so.

Don't know if it is feasible, but I would love to see a new casino (or an existing one) on the Boardwalk start a really nice big poker room to compete with the Borgata. The Borgata is a great place, but the fact that it is not on the boardwalk/beach is a big negative if you want the full AC experience.

magoo 07-12-2007 04:30 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
Hurry back! You missed the thrill of the road which goes to Absecon, with the concrete barrier, which prevents all left turns and U turns....for miles!! I don't hold it against the town. They probably figured it's the only way to prevent "head on" collisions.

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I was trying to get to AC from Ventnor which is aprox 2 mile south. ..............
I never found out the reason they were redirecting traffic.

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magoo 07-12-2007 04:34 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
You said a mouthful. But, 90% of what you wrote is b.s.

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everybody knows this city sucks, and is dirty, and has ugly hookers but...they also have casinos, and in those casinos you can gamble

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Gonso 07-12-2007 08:10 PM

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everybody knows this city sucks, and is dirty, and has ugly hookers but...they also have casinos, and in those casinos you can gamble

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No, unfortunately this is 100% correct

rubixxcube 07-12-2007 09:07 PM

Re: Atlantic city sucks
 
From the pinnacle website, the casino company that bought the sands:
On November 17th, 2006, we completed the purchase of the Sands Hotel & Casino and Traymore Hotel sites in the famed Atlantic City, New Jersey.

Together, the land being acquired comprises approximately 18 contiguous acres at the heart of Atlantic City, with extensive frontage along the Boardwalk. We plan to design and build an entirely new casino hotel on the site, which would be among the largest and most spectacular resorts in the region.

"Atlantic City is one of the top U.S. gaming destinations, and we're looking forward to being a part of the world-famous Boardwalk," said Daniel R. Lee, Pinnacle's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. "This major new resort will be a key component in our plan to build a national network of gaming properties. It will also help extend our development pipeline and our Company's growth through 2010 and beyond. In connection with our longstanding interest in Atlantic City, we submitted our initial license application in New Jersey several months ago.”

From what i last heard this is supposed to be done in the next 3-4 years

jjshabado 07-12-2007 10:40 PM

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I think the idea in designing the hotel was that "if we build it in AC but away from the boardwalk, we'll get a classier clientele with more money" (notice that none of the charter buses or greyhound stop there) which may be how it's worked out for them

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Yeah, I've talked to a couple of people at the Borgata and they made a deliberate decision to not have Greyhound or other cheap buslines stop at the casino. They didn't want those customers.

Eponymous 07-14-2007 12:50 PM

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From the pinnacle website, the casino company that bought the sands:
On November 17th, 2006, we completed the purchase of the Sands Hotel & Casino and Traymore Hotel sites in the famed Atlantic City, New Jersey.

Together, the land being acquired comprises approximately 18 contiguous acres at the heart of Atlantic City, with extensive frontage along the Boardwalk. We plan to design and build an entirely new casino hotel on the site, which would be among the largest and most spectacular resorts in the region.

"Atlantic City is one of the top U.S. gaming destinations, and we're looking forward to being a part of the world-famous Boardwalk," said Daniel R. Lee, Pinnacle's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. "This major new resort will be a key component in our plan to build a national network of gaming properties. It will also help extend our development pipeline and our Company's growth through 2010 and beyond. In connection with our longstanding interest in Atlantic City, we submitted our initial license application in New Jersey several months ago.”

From what i last heard this is supposed to be done in the next 3-4 years

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Pinnacle even has billboard advertisements on the highways coming into the city trying to build a buzz already. Morgan Stanley & Revel Entertainment is already breaking ground on a $1B+ mega casino on the 20+ acre lot next to the Showboat on the north end. On the south end, a group is planning to build a large casino next to the Hilton. And supposedly a new large casino from MGM/Boyd is going up in the Marina district near the Borgata. This is addition to the new towers already being build at the Taj, Harrah's, and Borgata and the announced expansion of the Hilton to try to keep up with the big boys.

Haven't heard much lately about Wynn and Trump knocking down the Trump Plaza and building a new mega casino there. Probably got stalled by Trump's failed plans to sell his casinos. Maybe those plans will be revived now that Trump's probably going to personally take over the lead of the casino operations part of his business.

rsigley 07-15-2007 11:23 AM

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Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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Is this really true? As of when I was there last week, the Sands building was still standing there taking up space. Completely replacing a boardwalk casino seems like a massive undertaking that AFAIK was still in the planning stages. I have a hard time believing they will have three new Borgatas built and opened within three years.

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Slots are up in Philly. I can't believe Philly will be letting AC keep an edge by not offering table games.



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i don't think under law they can have table games in philly. they have some blackjack to try to get some blackjack players there

here's an article about revenue decline in AC

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/busin...s_in_June.html


i never knew bally's was so popular

ChrisConstantine 07-16-2007 02:26 AM

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You missed the thrill of the road which goes to Absecon, with the concrete barrier, which prevents all left turns and U turns....for miles!!

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Actually there are 3 or 4 turnarounds from the right lane within that stretch. You must be very liberal to not look to your right.

TheAcesRToxic 07-16-2007 03:25 AM

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Within three years, there will be four Borgata-quality casinos built, three of which will be on the boardwalk. And the others are upgrading to keep up. Casears is already really nice. Too bad their poker room is pretty dead. Overall, AC will be changing a lot in the next few years. The money is starting to pour in.

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Is this really true? As of when I was there last week, the Sands building was still standing there taking up space. Completely replacing a boardwalk casino seems like a massive undertaking that AFAIK was still in the planning stages. I have a hard time believing they will have three new Borgatas built and opened within three years.

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Yeah the Pinnacle will be built by the end of 2010 where the Sands property is now. Another MGM Grande is going in the big property in between the Borgata and Harrah's. Finally, Steve Wynn is building a new property along the boardwalk as well that is supposed to be larger than any other building in AC. Things are definitely looking up for AC, its just ashame that the ppl don't change regardless of what remarkable upgrades to the landscape they make.


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