200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

Villain is 25/18/2.6 over 500 hands. We have played about 100 hands at this table and stayed out of each others way. I think this is actually the first time I have 3-bet him at this table. So he basically has no reason to think I'm full of it.

Maybe I should have bet the turn. Bet/fold?

His large turnbet really confused me though. On one hand I really have no reason to think he is floating me, and I doubt he would bet JJ here. But why would he make such a huge turnbet, when a much smaller bet would still mean he could push river. Kind of seems like he is committing himself with a medium strength hand.

So what does he have? A set/AA/KK, or a 56s/78s kind of hand. Very confused.

Running so bad lately and probably playing pretty bad as well.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $412.65
BB: $25.95
UTG: $96.17
CO: $338.46
BTN: $276.48

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $9.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $22.00

Flop: ($66) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, CO calls $40.00

Turn: ($146) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $122.00</font>, Hero?

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

If u call here, u basicly commit urself, so i think thats wrong, id never call but CRAI or fold.

The problem is that the board is really dry, he could easily have a set here.. the big turn bet is weird indeed as a smaller bet will commit alot of hands too, but im probably folding here, most of the time, unless i got a good read about his play post flop.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

Given how deep you are and that you are oop, I like your line, and I fold the turn. If he takes you off the best hand, congratulate him for only taking 15% of your stack.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

Agree. Good fold. What are you beating here? The odd turn bet could be just that -- an odd looking bet by AA, KK, or a set designed to make QQ call.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

This is usually KK-AA

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

You are only beating 1010-JJ imo.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

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You are only beating 1010-JJ imo.

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Thanks for the replies guys. If I'm ahead it is not a hand like JJ/TT, he is checking those behind on the turn 98% of the time. If I'm ahead he has a pair plus draw of some sort. I'm probably crushed way too often to continue with this hand though.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

bet more on the flop. His play really feels like AA to me trying to make sure he busts your QQ/KK.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

Why is a bigger flopbet superior? It's super dry and I usually bet somewhere between 1/2 to 2/3 pot in reraised pots. No more needed to get the money in eventually and not as concerned with draws usually.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

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Why is a bigger flopbet superior? It's super dry and I usually bet somewhere between 1/2 to 2/3 pot in reraised pots. No more needed to get the money in eventually and not as concerned with draws usually.

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Fold turn. Betting bigger on the flop would be a mistake.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

No one likes betting turn? I just feel check folding here is so weak and possibly very exploitable, but I guess that doesn't really matter if people won't actually exploit it.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

Yeah soo many people in SSNL at the moment are replying to my posts - 'zomg thats soo exploitable!!!' when no-one even knows what you are folding in these spots or is going to take advantage of it. I don't mind the check/fold. Betting half pot or something wouldn't be terrible. Check/folding the river if called.

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

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Yeah soo many people in SSNL at the moment are replying to my posts - 'zomg thats soo exploitable!!!'

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QFT, what set strategy isn't exploitable?

c/f is good op, he'll check behind with the hands that you beat alot

Re: 200NL QQ in reraised pot. Sort of deep.
 

IMO this isn't really such a clear cut fold. I think the villain's range is likely JJ, TT, 99, 88, 55, 33, or an AcKc type hand. With 65% equity against this range I don't think a CRAI is incorrect. To the villain your hand may look like an AK type hand that c-bet and then gave up when called which means he or she will be betting the turn with some hands that are complete bluffs.