Set vs flush?
 

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1426
Hero: $1005.17
Button: $211.25
SB: $896.53
BB: $276.08

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $20</font>, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($47, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $130</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($307, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $170</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $1276</font>.

Villain is sth like 29/27/5
We know each other pretty good and do lots of 3/4betting
Villain knowsfor sure that i could have a FD/SET/TPGK on this flop. He`s def able tomake a move, what you think?

Re: Set vs flush?
 

No thoughts?

Re: Set vs flush?
 

Do you often raise cbets with flushdraws in positions?
If villain knows you don't, this is a very good spot for him to bluff.

If you do it often it's probably a fold.

Re: Set vs flush?
 

I often raise my FD and i think he`s aware of that.

Re: Set vs flush?
 

Just because it is an overpush it looks much more like two pair or some sort of combo draw with a club, I call here. If he were to raise to like $625, IMO that'd be way tougher spot but would look more like a made flush.

Re: Set vs flush?
 

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Just because it is an overpush it looks much more like two pair or some sort of combo draw with a club, I call here. If he were to raise to like $625, IMO that'd be way tougher spot but would look more like a made flush.

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If he's good he knows a lot of players will see a raise to $625 as a stronger move then a raise all in.

Because villain probably knows OP can very well have a flush here, I think it isn't a bluff or weaker made hand often enough to call.

A good player is risking $850 to win $477 here.

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call so fast. I dont think he's chasing the T hi flush, and if he was chasing the Q/J hi flush, he likely has pair/straight draw + flush draw. If thats the case, he'd likely played the flop faster (i think). It looks like hes trying to blow u off AK/AQ, call this guy

Re: Set vs flush?
 

nh, results?

Re: Set vs flush?
 

CALL

Re: Set vs flush?
 

i think this is a call based on action/history

plus you can always suckout ;x

Re: Set vs flush?
 

check behind on the turn you are too deep to bet/call this

i'd rather induce a bluff

Re: Set vs flush?
 

i actually think he has a flush a lot here

Re: Set vs flush?
 

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check behind on the turn you are too deep to bet/call this

i'd rather induce a bluff

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Re: Set vs flush?
 

Not much invested, stacks are too huge.
He's not bluffing without a flush

Re: Set vs flush?
 

id say he has a low flush, he's probably pushing becuase there are a billion scare cards for him.

Re: Set vs flush?
 

could he have QT/QJ with a club???

Anyway you could have checked behind turn, IMHO you look in a bad shape now.

Re: Set vs flush?
 

both converted and some history, nice!

turn looks like a fold to me this deep, higher set or a flush looks likely.

checking behind on the turn is an option too.

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After i thought again about it, there is another thing we have to consider. He raised pre and theres a A,K,J!
This could be a set, too.

Why should he turn his Two pair into a bluff?
His WSD stats are 24/45, this isn`t that huge, but we must be aware of him that because of his AF he gets looked up quite often.
I think i am a CS and made some questionable calldowns lately and sucked out with sets in other hands.
If this would be Nl1000 iwould call in an instant, but he`s shoving more than a Buy IN, where i could have a monster.

Over thelast 3,6k hands he made 12BB/h, i doubt he`s that goo, but it shows he`s not a donk

Re: Set vs flush?
 

check behind and give yourself a chance to boat up, b/c here is pretty gross

i think w/ pot odds and the like you are probably pretty meh between calling and folding

Re: Set vs flush?
 

Should we really treat our set like a drawing hand here and c behind?
He will fire river for the same amount if he has a flush and i have to call. There are just too many scare cards on river i think

Re: Set vs flush?
 

Shouldnt we protect our hand?