100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $89.50
Hero (BB): $397.75
UTG: $123.30
MP: $42.60
CO: $53.65
BTN: $84.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, CO calls $3.00, SB calls $3.00

Flop: ($12) Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($12) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22.50</font>, CO folds, SB calls $14.50

River: ($57) Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $63.00</font>, Hero ???

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

no reads?

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

Small sample size so these are not very useful: 14/7/3(29)

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

i don't know if this is a fold.. but i'd say you're beat here...oh...99% of the time.

the other 1% he has 65 or A5 or 72 or something.

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

i am felting this, i really doubt he would call turn raise with lone jack

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

I'd call.

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

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i don't know if this is a fold.. but i'd say you're beat here...oh...99% of the time.

the other 1% he has 65 or A5 or 72 or something.

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I think 99% may be slightly high. I would say my opponent's range is likely AA, JJ, TT, 55, KQ, AJ, KJ, QJ, or JT. Giving my opponent the benefit of the doubt because of the small sample size I would omit AK and AQ from his or her range.

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

fold

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fold

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Please explain why.

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

I would probably fold.

On the turn, you really should raise more, closer to a pot sized raise. It will get you more value (obviously), but it will also make the stack sizes more favorable on the river (villain will have like 1/2 or 2/3 pot left instead of just over pot).

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

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i am felting this, i really doubt he would call turn raise with lone jack

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Then why are you felting? A lone J is basically all we beat here...

If we assume he doesn't call the turn with less then 2pair this has to be a river fold, since best case we chopping with the other straight.

We really only beat single As which I don't think would play the hand this way given that they b/c'd the turn and then shoved the river. And QJ, KJ type hands...

All of his likely 2pair hands now beat us, and TT/55 just filled up as well.

I probably fold here.

And I agree with the above poster, you need to make your turn raise larger.

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

I agree a larger raise on the turn is probably better, but idk if this is a fold getting 2:1. Is anyone interested in results?

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

results please? did u chop?

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

Well, possible hands that beat us, that he likely has with his play:

55
J10s
1010

etc

QK splits

This definitely looks like a fold

Results?

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

Is the SB really gonna limp to the flop with AA, JJ, 1010? I would think his range is more likely to include 55, medium suited Aces+ and Kings or Queens with other paint, and medium connectors.

If he has a hand like AJ or J10 or 55, is he really going to get value by shoving the river? It could be an overshove to make it look like a bluff, but if this guy really is a nit, wouldn't he bet for value instead of pushing?

I'm curious about the results. I'm not sure we're beat here as often as some people seem to be indicating, and I think I'd be calling the push here, but not happily.

Re: 100NL: Turned Straight on Dangerous River
 

Bet the flop; it's a good flop to c-bet. Raise more on the turn. A psr is 36, I'll raise to 30-32 at least. The river river push will then be about 55 in 72.