A shaddy $100 max cardroom (How can i beat it)
 

I play at this place called the Knights of Colmbus, which hosts a bunch of 1/2NL games that are usualy full. The max buy in is $100 minimum is $60. They charge $2 every half hour. most play very loose and make huge pre flop bets ($15) with medicore holdings and bet regardless of pot size, others are very tight and passive. The worse of the aggressive players will play any two cards and even raise on them OOP and regardless of # of pepole in. Should i be call/re raising PF and on the flop or shopuld i just be check calling all the way down or bet'/ push???? For some reason i am having more problems with this then 1/2 where eveyrone buys in for $300 and its not as crazy.

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Sounds like a typical LA 2/3 game. Play good TAG poker, don't bluff OOP (in fact don't bluff much at all until you stack a few times), punish when you have the goods or are drawing very good. You'll get plenty of calls. Post this in one of the strat forums (ssnl) for better advice.

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Do you count cards? yes or no?

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Do you count cards? yes or no?

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Eh?

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i do just that and play TAG poker but people are calling my $12 raises with crap and hitting the flop and i cant back down with TPTK. I know these players will eventualy go bust but i need to figure out a way to reduce the vairence so i dont have to keep pulling $100's out of my wallet. Im going back on monday hopefuly i can get some mroe advice and ill post a nice trpi report of the antics of these degenerics.

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i mean when the pot has $10 in it and some comes otu and bets $30 on the flop how cna i possibly calculate pot odds

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I personally would try to turn it into more of a preflop game... see less flops and use what little fold equity you might have preflop to take it down. Limp R-R people with AQ+, 99+, that way you can get a lot of the money in preflop against their huge range. More often than not the rest of the money is going in on the flop regardless of what it is, but this might help you.

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I personally would try to turn it into more of a preflop game... see less flops and use what little fold equity you might have preflop to take it down. Limp R-R people with AQ+, 99+, that way you can get a lot of the money in preflop against their huge range. More often than not the rest of the money is going in on the flop regardless of what it is, but this might help you.

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qft

also if there are bad players w/ big stacks, gamble it up early in hopes of getting a big stack to match theirs, then play poker w/ them.

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I personally would try to turn it into more of a preflop game... see less flops and use what little fold equity you might have preflop to take it down. Limp R-R people with AQ+, 99+, that way you can get a lot of the money in preflop against their huge range. More often than not the rest of the money is going in on the flop regardless of what it is, but this might help you.

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qft

also if there are bad players w/ big stacks, gamble it up early in hopes of getting a big stack to match theirs, then play poker w/ them.

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ask for a stars flip


and count cards ofcourse.

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i mean when the pot has $10 in it and some comes otu and bets $30 on the flop how cna i possibly calculate pot odds

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math?

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I play at this place called the Knights of Colmbus, which hosts a bunch of 1/2NL games that are usualy full. The max buy in is $100 minimum is $60. They charge $2 every half hour. most play very loose and make huge pre flop bets ($15) with medicore holdings and bet regardless of pot size, others are very tight and passive. The worse of the aggressive players will play any two cards and even raise on them OOP and regardless of # of pepole in. Should i be call/re raising PF and on the flop or shopuld i just be check calling all the way down or bet'/ push???? For some reason i am having more problems with this then 1/2 where eveyrone buys in for $300 and its not as crazy.

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I'm with ya there Lef. I'm used to playing more deep stack poker than waiting for big hands that are gonna be played multiway cause of the short-stacked structure. Then if you do play the multiway hands you aren't getting the right odds to play if there is a lot of PF raising. I believe the best advice posted here is to make it more of a preflop game...possibly limp reraising, etc....or just making bigger raises PF and eventually somebody will "play back" or hope your AA runs into KK or AK so you can win a big pot. Otherwise the play gets tricky after the flop with the short stacks (are they pushing a hand or draw?? calling preflop with high pair or Kx??) I found it very hard to read players with $100 stacks or less. So just make it a preflop game unless you can get in for cheap and flop sets.

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Also, with stacks that are between 40 and 50 bb's, it plays a lot like the early-mid stages of a MTT. I know I usually have a different mindset in tournaments and cash games so if you do this also maybe you can consider playing it more like a MTT.

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wat does everyone mean "counting cards"?
thanks for everyones advice so far keep it comming

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wat does everyone mean "counting cards"?
thanks for everyones advice so far keep it comming

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It's a joke, counting cards is for blackjack, it came up recently in a thread about things that tilt you up that non-poker players say and most of us decided we get really tilted up if someone asks us if we count cards.

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wat does everyone mean "counting cards"?
thanks for everyones advice so far keep it comming

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It's a joke, counting cards is for blackjack, it came up recently in a thread about things that tilt you up that non-poker players say and most of us decided we get really tilted up if someone asks us if we count cards.

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Interesting. I just figured when Dan asked me a couple times that someone must have hacked his account.