River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

I'm getting destroyed in the game, running really badly etc.

Kid from Seattle, Travis i think is his name (Buckeye on wpex, back in the day), plays pretty well it seems like.

Raises in the hijack.
Folded to me in the SB and i three bet AQo.
BB folds, he calls.

Flop A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I bet, he raises, I call.

Turn 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I checkraise, he calls.

River 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

These spots often come up.

What should we go with?

B/F, C/C, C/F,?

All options seem so bad.

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

I usually just say [censored] it and bet/fold.

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

i really don't like bet/fold here for some reason. wouldn't he check behind a spade on the turn? seems like maybe he has an ace with no spade or something. i'd hate to bet the river and have him successfully bluff us out of this pot. basically i'm not folding so the options are either check/call or bet/call. i'd probably check call but obv it depends on how often you think he'll bluff the river.

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

keep going on the flop.

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

Travis is a pretty tough LAG, TravEasy from party. Bet/call or check/call are the only options as it seems less likely than normal for him to have a spade (given turn play). I'd probably bet like I hate it and then call fast.

-DeathDonkey

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keep going on the flop.

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i actually really liked my line in this hand, is it really that bad?

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

i love ur line against travis...check call river

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

How about a check/raise? It gets in the same number of bets as bet/call and it might just get him to fold a weak spade?

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keep going on the flop.

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i actually really liked my line in this hand, is it really that bad?

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I dont like it, bc of the free card danger. He might have an Ace big spade combo that he would continue betting but he might take the freebie fearing set or 2 pair. It seems like too much guess work so against a tough player I would just play straightforward. I also would just c/c river. Seems like the tradeoff just isnt worth it as far as inducing a bluff raise vs. the times he actually has a spade.

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Should I be offended that Chris says I'm a LAG or should I be happy?

Anyhow a bit more information on the hand. i'm also running good at this point in the game up a ton and playing slightly more wreckless than normal. I think Hoppscot knows this.

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

Travis is about as far away from a LAG style as you can get unless he changed his game recently which I doubt. I puke and c/c and he shows you the J of spades.

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Travis is about as far away from a LAG style as you can get unless he changed his game recently which I doubt. I puke and c/c and he shows you the J of spades.

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Wow I would have said he's getting more TAG and used to be outside his mind. Travis when we met you at commerce the first time you were just going nuts trying to win every pot and now you are scary tough.

Cool blog seattlejohn.

-DeathDonkey

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No 3bet on the flop?

Although I would hate to fold, I would c/c river. I think he was most likely raising the flop with (1) K or Q of spades. (JQ, KJ?)

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

not to hijack the thread but love2t....nice name, copyright infringement there as that was my SN on partypoker.....

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not to hijack the thread but love2t....nice name, copyright infringement there as that was my SN on partypoker.....

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Lol, I remember you. I was gonna ask him if he was on pp. Loved that name. Not so original w/ 2p2 sn though.

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Lol, I remember you. I was gonna ask him if he was on pp. Loved that name. Not so original w/ 2p2 sn though.

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lol..i guess i went from 2 spectrums from big time originality to none at all...just wanted a nice simply non controversial name and was actually pretty surprised no one took this one....but the funniest part of the name was it was my fiancee's account at the time that i was playing on and i LOVED IT when anytime there was an issue with the account she would have to call some indian guy from party poker and spell out the SN to this guy in new dehli, just pure comedy....poor girl, but she did actually stick around...

Re: River spot, no good options 1-2 bellagio?
 

You have no idea what he has and he's playing loose, so check call?