NL200 river problem
 

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UTG+1 ($177.65)
MP1 ($111.30)
MP2 ($185.35)
MP3 ($197)
CO ($194.65)
Button ($201.10)
SB ($119.75)
Hero ($278.95)
UTG ($242.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($7) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $6</font>, CO calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls $16.

Turn: ($57) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $18</font>, Hero calls $18.

River: ($93) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $105</font>, Hero ?.

Final Pot: $198

Re: NL200 river problem
 

I think this is probably a fold. I tend to call in these situations and usually I am wrong.

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No made hand makes sense for him excpet he hit a set on the flop but then its some retarted betting by him

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No made hand makes sense for him excpet he hit a set on the flop but then its some retarted betting by him

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108s fits his play.

Also, since I assume hes unkown we really don't know much here, he could have AQ for all we known, maybe even stuck around with k10 for the gutter, who knows.

I think we lay this down here.

For us to call on the river, we have to put him on someting like QJ or Q10, and while those I guess are likely, I think he checks QJ behind on the river, and Q10 he could be turning into a bluff here.

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I hate c/r the flop and not leading the turn. Any reason you did this. Seems like b/f turn is a better line than c/c.

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No offense but I kinda hate the whole hand.

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Am I the only one who likes a call here?
Anyway, if I'm taking this line I think I'm calling for sure.

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These big river bets following weak turn bets aren't bluffs very often. Looks like he either hit his draw or he was "slowplaying" the turn hoping for another checkraise.

I don't understand your turn play either. Did his calling of the checkraise worry you? Did you think he hit his straight on the turn?

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No offense but I kinda hate the whole hand.

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I'm thinking the same
Raise to 12$ preflop, probably the end of the hand

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check pre is ok
lead flop gg nh

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I would probably raise to $12 preflop - it makes the rest of the hand a little easier and you can normally just take it down right there. As played, when I flop TPTK OOP in an unraised pot, I like to lead out and find out where I am. I'm NEVER looking to play a huge pot unless I drastically improve my hand, or if I'm up against a total fish, and checkraising the flop just bloats the pot and puts you in a weird spot when called. On the other hand, a checkraise is great if you have a better hand like 2pair or a set.

As played, it's impossible to know where you stand by check-calling each street, and I probably fold to that river bet. Sure looks like he had a draw that got there.

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Looks like he picked up a flush draw on the turn, bet to get some money in the pot, and then bet hard when it hit. I fold this.

I like the check pre-flop, but I lead the flop for $6 here. AJ has burned me plenty, and I want to know where I stand right up front.

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No offense but I kinda hate the whole hand.

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Agreed. You got yourself into a [censored] me situation. Tough call to make on the river. Flip a coin and decide.

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No offense but I kinda hate the whole hand.

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Agreed. You got yourself into a [censored] me situation. Tough call to make on the river. Flip a coin and decide.

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Not bad advice, if you are truly stuck and you think its that close then use a randomiser to tell you your move. At least that way you vary your play.