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dynacraze 06-30-2007 04:20 PM

Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I think there was a thread here on p5 like poker's dark side but i forgot if it was related. Anyways i played online poker for 2 years already and i found out one thing. Poker does really bring out the ugly side in everyone. For instance, when i used to play poker i didn't really know how to play. So when i play and i lost, i wasn't really bothered. But now i see threads here on p5 about a guy yelling at a guy for calling 1/3 of his stack in an sng on the bubble with J2s with him cursing and all that. I don't know about you people but i hate seeing people do type that stuff. When i started to get a little serious about poker, i sometimes type those comments as well because I get mad.

Then i realize that playing poker does bring out the side in you that you don't show normally. For instance, normally i don't get mad at a lot of stuff but when i start taking bad beats, the bad side of me comes out and i know a lot of people have the same problem. But when i just play poker for fun like say the atmosphere of a home game, i don't really care if i win or lose because it's for fun. I incorporate that when i play online now because i just don't want to take it too seriously. I found out that if you take things too seriously, you take the bad beats seriously as well. When i play a friendly game, its all about a good time and again i don't care if i win or lose.

So does anyone agree with the statement that it brings out that poker brings out the ugly side in some people? It seems to me the only people I like to play poker against are laid back people because they are all about a good time and so am I. I know their not going to be long term winners but at least they don't get mad at curse like the online players do who gets mad a suckout in a 27dollar sng and starts typing bad stuff at people.

It's like I don't even like playing these serious players in poker anymore because all they think about is winning which is not bad but they take it so personal when they lose that i feel like they are terrible people in real life who plays poker on day on their computer and have a very limiited social life.

I play lower limits 50NL full ring and i hear a lot of cursing stuff going on. Even in the 11 dollar sngs people start typing die die etc to other players. And other players in the table just go lol, go away which does make me mad a bit because the losing player is probably real furious right now and who knows what he will do next at home i mean.

Of course I am pretty sure this is a young player who has no job and trying to make some money online in poker because they don't want to find a job. They probably have 200 dollars or so and havve a bad run of sngs and go broke and start getting mad.

Does anyone agree with some of my points here?

the_rookie 06-30-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I'm a perfect example of this unfortunately.

Poker is a sick game. If I could travel back to the past, I would have never started playing. I've seen the worst of me and it's not just at the tables anymore, but carries into my family and social life. I'm becoming more anti-social as the days go by (not that I was a social butterfly to begin with.) It's getting pretty bad and I know the cause of the problem, but can't fix it because I'm addicted to this wretched game. Damn it all to hell really. I used to be a go-happy type of guy, but poker has completely flipped that part of me upside down.

sweeng8 06-30-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I think what so say is true to an extent, but you will probably see this in most competitive sports. Having years of sunday league football behind me, I think sport as a whole bring out the aggression in us men. The annoymous nature of playing online allows people to be as rude as they like, but I dont think it is any worse than other games. Have a look at a lot of chat rooms out there, some of the stuff is horrible. I think its more a case of people acting like fools online, than poker itself.

kekedarius 06-30-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I think if you're getting genuinely angry (especially at others) over a game then you probably have a lot of growing up to do. Gain some dignity and learn to lose.

dynacraze 06-30-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
hey keke i said i just see this happen too much when i play online. I used to get angry a lot too but then i said its just a game and to stop getting serious. I think a lot of those losers who keep whining are the ones that will never get it b/c they whine over everything. I would HATE to have these players in my home game b/c they only care about winning and not having a "good" time.

_Towelie_ 06-30-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
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Poker is a sick game.

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No it isn't, it's just a game. I'm sorry to hear you have compulsive tendencies but if you never found poker you would have found something else to consume your time.

superadvisor 06-30-2007 06:42 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
This is one of the main reasons I had to quit poker. It's more worth it for me to be in situations where I am pleasant around other people rather than consuming my time figuring out ways to destroy them. This has lead me to such things as girlfriends, hobbies, motivation, etc...

chesspain 06-30-2007 07:45 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
Actually, I think that it's simply that losing money brings out the ugly side in people.

govman6767 07-01-2007 01:10 AM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
Things that bring out your darkside more than poker.

1) Being cut off or having people drive like Donks in Traffic

2) People who talk in the movie theater

3) Rappers (Can't help it they ruin society) Unless they rap about weed only [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

4) Stupid Army Regulations. Too many to list

5) 16 Check out lines at K-Mart and only 1 is open at any given time.

6) Fast food tardos who can't get an order right.'

7) Restraunts who have booths an ethiopian cannot fit into

8) People who cut in line and act like they DON'T KNOW IT.

Getting AA cracked by some schloub is nothing compared to some of the dumb stuff the tards of society are pulling off these days.

StueyIvey 07-01-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I'm very interested in hearing about these things, tell me more.


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This has lead me to such things as girlfriends, hobbies, motivation, etc...

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dwf76 07-01-2007 03:46 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
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I play lower limits 50NL full ring and i hear a lot of cursing stuff going on. Even in the 11 dollar sngs people start typing die die etc to other players. And other players in the table just go lol, go away which does make me mad a bit because the losing player is probably real furious right now and who knows what he will do next at home i mean.



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You do see a lot more of this at the lower levels, I put it down to the fact that most players at these levels have picked up and read the same books, because of this they all play in the same unimaginitve way (guilty myself at times). So the first time someone shows down something other than a premium hand its, you can't do that the book says it's wrong.

It does'nt help either that the players at these levels think because of what they've read their professionals without the bankroll. I had someone telling me how to play and slating me in the chat box once and it was only a $4 MTT, but at the time I hadn't been playing long and it knocked me sideways.

You also have to remember a large proportion of players are quite young and haven't the maturity to handle themselves properly yet, especially when they have roll models like Helmuth, Matusow, Tony.G etc.

Unfortunately it's these types of players that also get more airtime on televised tournaments.

The online and live policies regarding inappropriate behaviour are also to slack at the moment to distract from doing it,chat bans or time away from the tables aren't going to put an end to the behaviour.

Some may say it's part of the game getting someone to tilt because it gives them an egde ,but the best players are capable of beating weaker players without tilting them.

I don't know if or how many agree with my view but I think the people that genuinely want to progress in poker realize that it's a part of the game they don't need and we can live without.

mickii 07-02-2007 02:56 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
When I take bad beats at home I gaybash my opponents, swear, and chuck stuff. Actual temper tantrums worse than my 2 year old throws. I feel better and move on. I don't ever go on tilt. B&M bad beats, I smile and no one would ever know it bothers me. This is an ugly side in both ways, but no one ever knows. You need a release that works for you and helps you avoid tilt or any adjustments in playing winning poker.

Headblader 07-02-2007 07:12 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I had this guy all mad at me today at the uNL tables on stars I had raised 4x the bb for the past 3 or 4 hands and he was getting livid. I raise the next hand with pocket 4's and flop a set and stack him and he justified calling with K6 by saying he just kept raising somebody had to teach him.

lwrunner103 07-03-2007 03:44 AM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
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I had this guy all mad at me today at the uNL tables on stars I had raised 4x the bb for the past 3 or 4 hands and he was getting livid. I raise the next hand with pocket 4's and flop a set and stack him and he justified calling with K6 by saying he just kept raising somebody had to teach him.

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Love when this happens.

DeuceSeven 07-03-2007 05:09 AM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
I play sngs, sometimes I get pissed and type [censored]. I'm working on it. It's a good indicator to quit if I start getting mad. It's bad for business too, no sense teaching the fish. I'm much better then when I started although I need alot of work on this issue.

johnnyknish 07-03-2007 09:54 AM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
i feel like somtimes it just get so bad with how im running that i cant help but type in the random "wow" or "awesome" when some guy calls half his stack with 85 because the were s00ted and proceeds to hit a running flush after i flopped top pair with my aces lol

Colima420 07-03-2007 03:23 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
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So does anyone agree with the statement that it brings out that poker brings out the ugly side in some people?

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Yes. I agree.

Colima420

PokeReader 07-04-2007 06:34 AM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
Mickii, why do you behave so differently online? Is it just the anoymity? I think that is a bigger problem than the poker, and the internet standards are now invading B+M more. Internet conduct in general is sketchy. People are so much ruder on the internet than they would be in person. Like the other person isn't real, and doesn't have the same feelings? In person, they might have an arguement, but it would be civilized, they wouldn't get personal. I really wish there would be some peer pressure for this to tone down. People making death threats, it's not cool.

idrinkcoors 07-04-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Poker brings out the ugly side in people right?
 
Yes, Poker (winning or losing) CAN bring out the worst in some folks, but like the old saying says: Poker doesn't build character, it reveals it.


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