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Dozer60 06-30-2007 09:28 AM

The Most Dangerous player
 
Poker bluffers are the most dangerous player you will face. they will continue to keep you guessing, whether or not they are bluffing. If you have to guess, you will lose.the bluffer is a master at the art of deception, his play is an illusion. his play will make you believe that which is not true. does he have a strong hand or is he bluffing ? bluffers are very dangerous. bluffers sit and watch every move,gesture,sound you make. during the first rounds, they made your style of play loose,tight,aggressive,etc. they now can predict what hands you are playing, and you are guessing. the most dangerous trait of a bluffer is his psychological effect. the bluffer knows the moment when the mind is most willing to accept a fact. he mastered the science dealing with the mind, to influence or confuse thinking. as I have said before, there is no strategy,theory, starting hand chart that will help you in poker.

Gonso 06-30-2007 10:06 AM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
Did you have a poker theory question or something? Still not sure what the point of any of your threads are. Are we all supposed to stop studying and buy cowboy hats or what?

allingator 06-30-2007 11:40 AM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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as I have said before, there is no strategy,theory, starting hand chart that will help you in poker.

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Sounds like bluffing is a pretty good strategy [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Or am I just missing your poetic technique of contradicting yourself at the end of your piece?

Number27 06-30-2007 12:20 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
[ QUOTE ]
Poker bluffers are the most dangerous player you will face. they will continue to keep you guessing, whether or not they are bluffing. If you have to guess, you will lose.the bluffer is a master at the art of deception, his play is an illusion. his play will make you believe that which is not true. does he have a strong hand or is he bluffing ? bluffers are very dangerous. bluffers sit and watch every move,gesture,sound you make. during the first rounds, they made your style of play loose,tight,aggressive,etc. they now can predict what hands you are playing, and you are guessing. the most dangerous trait of a bluffer is his psychological effect. the bluffer knows the moment when the mind is most willing to accept a fact. he mastered the science dealing with the mind, to influence or confuse thinking. as I have said before, there is no strategy,theory, starting hand chart that will help you in poker.

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1. Most of the top players in the world have a very good grasp on poker strategy.

2. Someone who bluffs constantly is very easy to beat. You just widen your calling range accordingly.

3. This is why you lose at online poker.

4. Don't forget my extra Arby Sauce next time you see me in the line.

stampler 06-30-2007 02:28 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
Maybe your symantics are a little off, but I agree.
If I can force you to make the big decisions, to guess, and I've taken the guess-work out of the equation for myself, I'm at a huge advantage, and the cards I'm holding don't even matter. Say you call me down this time; well, I'm just setting you up for later on, and i'll get my money back plus interest when you decide to play back at me when I have the nuts. I'll just wait you out. The worst thing you can be against tough opponents is predictable. They will eat you alive.

infinity235 06-30-2007 02:46 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
OP, Why do you post in this forum if you know everything better than anyone else?

MightyA6 06-30-2007 03:22 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
1. Bluffing is a part of being deceptive. It's not deceptiveness itself.
2. Against a bluffer, position is the key. Marginal hands goes up since you know you'll get paid.
3. You can't bluff someone again if the one you're trying to put all-in after you bluff raise.
4. Am I the only one laughing my ass off?

elmopoker 06-30-2007 04:23 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
bluffers are serious business

itWASaDREAM 06-30-2007 06:29 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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4. Don't forget my extra Arby Sauce next time you see me in the line.

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TheDivineRod 06-30-2007 10:10 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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4. Am I the only one laughing my ass off?

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no.

El_Hombre_Grande 06-30-2007 10:37 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
You never count your money,
when your sittin' at the table,
thell be time enough for countin'
when the dealins done.

wilneedheart 07-01-2007 04:26 AM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
Did you lose your stack to a bluffer?

AP0CALYP5E 07-01-2007 02:41 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
With the exception of Continuation bets, you can beat low stakes poker without bluffing.

insyder19 07-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
apocalypse, what do you mean?

billygrippo 07-01-2007 04:00 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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Did you have a poker theory question or something? Still not sure what the point of any of your threads are. Are we all supposed to stop studying and buy cowboy hats or what?

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rofls!1

LionelHutz00 07-01-2007 04:26 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
If you're playing on the internets, how can you bluff? YOU CANT EVEN SEE THE OTHER GUYS FACE.

AP0CALYP5E 07-01-2007 04:39 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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apocalypse, what do you mean?

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At low stakes, too many players will go all-in with just top pair. You can't bluff players who don't know they are supposed to fold.

I'm not saying bluffing never works at low stakes, but you can beat low stakes without bluffing.

tarheeljks 07-01-2007 10:24 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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Did you lose your stack to a bluffer?

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nah, he probably applied lots of theory incorrectly and blames his failure on "holes in the theory" as opposed to his lack of comprehension.

iveyleague24 07-01-2007 10:28 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
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If you're playing on the internets, how can you bluff? YOU CANT EVEN SEE THE OTHER GUYS FACE.

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On pokerstars, i can see stinger88's face. He's following in Phil Ivey's footsteps as one of the greatest african american players ever.

JOHNY CA$H 07-01-2007 11:11 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
You should put all your thoughts together and write a really bad book on poker.

Conspire 07-01-2007 11:20 PM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
I hope that OP burns in a grease fire. He can then explain why most people die, but how smart he was because he only got burnt.

MrGrob 07-02-2007 01:49 AM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
Stop smoking the wacky-weed if you are not going to share.

This is your only warning.

wilneedheart 07-02-2007 03:44 AM

Re: The Most Dangerous player
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #2828645685: Table Inverter (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:52:13 ET - 2007/07/02
Seat 1: napakatanga ($10)
Seat 2: LO SCOULO ($6.75)
Seat 3: Andrew Thiele ($10.05)
Seat 4: Beesnuts303 ($10)
Seat 5: RyP14 ($36.45)
Seat 6: eozzy ($1.30)
Andrew Thiele posts the small blind of $0.05
Beesnuts303 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Andrew Thiele [8h 9h]
RyP14 calls $0.10
eozzy folds
napakatanga calls $0.10
LO SCOULO calls $0.10
Andrew Thiele calls $0.05
Beesnuts303 checks

*** FLOP *** [5h Jh 3h]
Andrew Thiele checks
Beesnuts303 checks
RyP14 checks
napakatanga bets $0.40
<u>LO SCOULO calls $0.40</u>
Andrew Thiele calls $0.40
Beesnuts303 folds
RyP14 folds

*** TURN *** [5h Jh 3h] [Th]
Andrew Thiele checks
napakatanga checks
<u>LO SCOULO bets $0.10</u>
Andrew Thiele calls $0.10
napakatanga folds

*** RIVER *** [5h Jh 3h Th] [7h]
Andrew Thiele has 15 seconds left to act
Andrew Thiele bets $1.90
<u>LO SCOULO raises to $3.80</u>
Andrew Thiele raises to $9.45, and is all in
<u>LO SCOULO calls $2.35, and is all in</u>
Seat 2: LO SCOULO (button) mucked [4s As] - a flush, Jack high
Seat 3: Andrew Thiele (small blind) showed [8h 9h] and won ($12.80) with a straight flush, Jack high
<u>LO SCOULO is sitting out</u>


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