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27offsuit 06-28-2007 01:37 PM

How avoidable is this to you?
 
I'm going to present a scenario to you and I'm just curious how easy you would find it to avoid, had you been put in the same situation.

Back story: It's this guy, the most irritating co-worker in history of co-work.


Here is the scenario:

You go to a gym after work.
At night, gym is fairly empty, save for 5-6 regulars.
Gym is in a questionable area. For people from Boston, it's on the edge of Chinatown, in the old Combat Zone, across the street from a homeless hangout/shelter/whatever.

You walk in and head to locker room.
While entering locker room some guy, we'll say for the sake of argument a black guy in disheveled street clothes, is exiting the same locker room.
You pass each other. You go in and he exits.
A minute later, while sitting at locker in empty locker room and changing into gym clothes, said guy walks back in and sits down two spots over from you and begins 'changing'.
You have never seen this person before. You go to the gym every night.
Again the entire locker room is empty and he sits basically right next to you.


At this point what do you do?

For me, a fairly street-smart person with a good bit of common sense, it's time to bust the [censored] out of there.
I have red flags hitting me in the face left and right here.


For this guy, however, the answer is not so cut and dry.

He:

Continues changing.
Leaves wallet, keys, etc. in locker.
Is surprised when he returns and locker is ransacked.
No wallet, no keys, no nuthin.

Turns out, guy signed in for a free trial workout, left all false info, and was basically in and out of there inside of 30 minutes.
Charges began almost immediately to debit card, credit cards, and bank account.

Also, Einstein felt the need to PUT ADDRESSES on every one of his keys, including some keys to CLIENTS HOMES he felt the need to carry around with his personal keys.

Hilarity does not ensue.



He asked me yesterday if I think he should sue the gym.




So I'm just curious: Do you avoid this or am I just another cracker-ass racist?



PS - his yogurt glopping has recently been replaced by a heaping bowl of Cheerios and open-mouthed crunching for a good 10 minutes every morning.


Bonus pic: Pooptoad jumping the shark.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../poopshark.jpg

Dids 06-28-2007 01:40 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
Nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that bums just don't join gyms. Dude is a toolbox idiot.

superadvisor 06-28-2007 01:42 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
URRRGHHH, I HATE BLACK PEOPEL!!

Brain 06-28-2007 01:44 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
You don't lock your gym locker in Boston?

This guy's beyond idiot.

NT! 06-28-2007 01:45 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
ummm this guy is an idiot. he should sue his parents for giving him teh down.

27offsuit 06-28-2007 01:45 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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URRRGHHH, I HATE BLACK PEOPEL!!

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I think you're gonna get some feedback on that response, but that's not really what we're talking about here.

Also, I don't think you're going to enjoy the feedback.

Tmoney120 06-28-2007 01:46 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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You don't lock your gym locker everywhere ?

This guy's beyond idiot.

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27offsuit 06-28-2007 01:47 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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You don't lock your gym locker in Boston?

This guy's beyond idiot.

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Locked.....and popped.

XXXNoahXXX 06-28-2007 01:48 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
http://www.taymor.com/c09_security_h...es/37-4510.jpg



Also, lol at you fleeing in a panic. Just lock your stuff up, then go work out. duh.

Klompy 06-28-2007 01:51 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
so I'm confused, random guy starts changing right next to you when there's plenty of open room in the locker, this raises red flags to you because you think he's going to steal your stuff, and then his stuff ends up getting stolen?

danzasmack 06-28-2007 01:53 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
You should have told him to hide the keys in the yogurt. Nobody would look in there.

Other than that it's what NT! said. How can you not have a lock for your locker at a public gym, epsecially in this neighborhood?

Also - address on the keys? WTF? Seriously i would have pissed in this guys yogurt months ago. At least buy several of these yogurts and ask him to mix them for you.

Who the [censored] puts their ADDRESS on their KEYS!? If you are that scared of losing them put like a contact number on it. Does he write his pin number on his debit cards?

captZEEbo 06-28-2007 01:53 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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You don't lock your gym locker in Boston?

This guy's beyond idiot.

[/ QUOTE ]it's definitely possible the guy clipped the lock.

Triumph36 06-28-2007 01:53 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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so I'm confused, random guy starts changing right next to you when there's plenty of open room in the locker, this raises red flags to you because you think he's going to steal your stuff, and then his stuff ends up getting stolen?

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he's telling the story as a hypothetical - what if you were there

turns out his friend noticed all of these things but didn't do anything. suing the gym is pure lol.

Tmoney120 06-28-2007 01:54 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
what kind of lock did your co-worker use? did the homeless dude have boltcutters, and if so, wouldn't that raise another red flag?

AbreuTime 06-28-2007 02:03 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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did the homeless dude have boltcutters, and if so, wouldn't that raise another red flag?

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He said they were bottle openers for his 6-pack of bud light.

TiK 06-28-2007 02:08 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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did the homeless dude have boltcutters, and if so, wouldn't that raise another red flag?

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He said they were bottle openers for his 40 oz of St. Ides.

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mbillie1 06-28-2007 02:09 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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did the homeless dude have boltcutters, and if so, wouldn't that raise another red flag?

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He said they were bottle openers for his 40 oz of St. Ides.

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I lol'd hard

27offsuit 06-28-2007 02:57 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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http://www.taymor.com/c09_security_h...es/37-4510.jpg



Also, lol at you fleeing in a panic. Just lock your stuff up, then go work out. duh.

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Noah, do you eat yogurt for breakfast, because you and The Most Irritating Co-worker in History seem to think a lot alike?





It had a padlock of some sort on it, which was cut with a bolt cutter.


lawl....40 oz of St. Ides

guids 06-28-2007 03:01 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/189/48/

the new thief tool, its possible it was locked



I dont bring anything to the gym but headphones, keys which I carry, and whatever Im drinking. wallets are for suckers.

tuq 06-28-2007 03:14 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
guids,

At least at my gym leaving stuff in lockers >>>> leaving stuff in the car, even though it's a decent enough part of town. Lots of break-ins in the lot over the years regardless, no doubt because thieves camp in a car and watch people go in - if they're not carrying valuables such as wallet, phone, etc. they can guess they're in the vehicle. After all, they drove there, and they're not likely to drive without their driver's license, which will typically be found in a wallet or a purse.

That actually happened to me about ten years ago in broad daylight on a summer afternoon at the peak time at the gym. It was suspected that the thieves wrapped a towel around a large rock to dampen the sound of the window breaking. Nothing was visible but as mentioned they probably saw me walk in with nothing. Also, our gym has a couple of banks of safe deposit lockers, which I don't bother with because I already have my own personal locker just so I don't have to carry a key around.

Anyway, my gym is pretty nice but still there was a scam running there years ago where the thief would apparently spot someone putting their stuff in their locker, then would crack the lock while they were working out. But here's the thing: the thief would only remove a single credit card and then lock the locker, so it could take days for the person to figure out it had been stolen - usually when the CC company called asking about suspicious activity. Guys I know were fleeced for thousands this way, but luckily weren't liable for the charges.

bwana devil 06-28-2007 03:27 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
i think the reasonable thing to have done would have been to lock your stuff up and gone and worked out. the weird thing would have been to "bust the [censored] out of there" based on being alone w/ one other guy in a locker room.

ive been in the locker room w/ one other guy a lot. if i split every time this happened, i probably wouldnt get many workouts done. the thing to do is take reasonable precautions and go on with your life. sarcastically calling the guy an Einstein seems unnecessary.

somethingstupid 06-28-2007 03:43 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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then would crack the lock while they were working out. But here's the thing: the thief would only remove a single credit card and then lock the locker,

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They would actually pick the lock?

OP: I think it was totally reasonable for the guy to lock up his stuff and go work out.

secretprankster 06-28-2007 03:43 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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Lots of break-ins in the lot over the years regardless, no doubt because thieves camp in a car and watch people go in - if they're not carrying valuables such as wallet, phone, etc. they can guess they're in the vehicle.

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Expert strategy ldo.

XXXNoahXXX 06-28-2007 03:46 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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http://www.taymor.com/c09_security_h...es/37-4510.jpg



Also, lol at you fleeing in a panic. Just lock your stuff up, then go work out. duh.

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Noah, do you eat yogurt for breakfast, because you and The Most Irritating Co-worker in History seem to think a lot alike?





It had a padlock of some sort on it, which was cut with a bolt cutter.


lawl....40 oz of St. Ides

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from the op: "it's time to bust the [censored] out of there."

you're the one making it sound like the guy is gonna rape you or set you on fire or something. the sense of urgency you are conveying is a bit ridiculous.

I lock my stuff up and if I'm being super paranoid, I leave my wallet in my pocket and just lock up my clothes.

You make it sound like you'd dash out of their in your underwear because OMG DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

27offsuit 06-28-2007 03:58 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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i think the reasonable thing to have done would have been to lock your stuff up and gone and worked out. the weird thing would have been to "bust the [censored] out of there" based on being alone w/ one other guy in a locker room.

ive been in the locker room w/ one other guy a lot. if i split every time this happened, i probably wouldnt get many workouts done. the thing to do is take reasonable precautions and go on with your life. sarcastically calling the guy an Einstein seems unnecessary.

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Jeebus, I wish people would read some replies before posting Stupid.


OK, one last time:

He put a lock on the [censored] locker.

This isn't about running from Scary Black Guy either, it's about sensing something isn't right and taking action before you lose all your crap.


And 'Einstein' was completely warranted.

27offsuit 06-28-2007 04:03 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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from the op: "it's time to bust the [censored] out of there."

you're the one making it sound like the guy is gonna rape you or set you on fire or something. the sense of urgency you are conveying is a bit ridiculous.



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Understood. It was a figure of speech more than anything else.


I'm not running out with arms flailing yelling "NEGRO! NEGRO!", but I am just packing up and heading out most likely.

tuq 06-28-2007 04:06 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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then would crack the lock while they were working out. But here's the thing: the thief would only remove a single credit card and then lock the locker,

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They would actually pick the lock?

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I think this is more common knowledge now (may even be in a link posted upthread) but the very popular Master combination locks could apparently be picked by some sort of magnetic device. I think I was also told that the older they are, the easier they are to pick. So the guy could run the cracker over the lock, open it, and lock it again without the gym member being any the wiser. Plus it would probably look to a casual passerby that the thief wasn't doing anything too out of the ordinary, thus not attracting attention. After that happened, I noticed that around 90% of the locks in our locker room were the classic Master lock variety, so I went for something more heavy duty.

Also, one time some guy that I guess was a meth head or something broke into a friend's locker and took his keys and stuff. Friend figured it out pretty quickly and went out to the parking lot only to find meth head wandering aimlessly around the lot clicking unlock on the keyless entry in an attempt to find the vehicle. My friend, a pacifist by nature, declined to press charges because he didn't get away.

bwana devil 06-28-2007 04:11 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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i think the reasonable thing to have done would have been to lock your stuff up and gone and worked out. the weird thing would have been to "bust the [censored] out of there" based on being alone w/ one other guy in a locker room.

ive been in the locker room w/ one other guy a lot. if i split every time this happened, i probably wouldnt get many workouts done. the thing to do is take reasonable precautions and go on with your life. sarcastically calling the guy an Einstein seems unnecessary.

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Jeebus, I wish people would read some replies before posting Stupid.


OK, one last time:

He put a lock on the [censored] locker.

This isn't about running from Scary Black Guy either, it's about sensing something isn't right and taking action before you lose all your crap.

And 'Einstein' was completely warranted.

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hey dillhole, i know he put a lock on the locker. although you failed to put that significant piece of info in your OP, i had read your other posts in the thread before replying.

putting a lock on your locker is a reasonable expectation of security in a gym. if you have a heightened sense of security as noah said bring your wallet w/ you. if your name is 27offsuit every time you sense someone standing too close to you strip naked and yell rape to draw attention to you and draw the perp away.

it's about reasonable measures. it's not about acting like you have 20/20 hindsite and calling people idiots because they didnt act like you claim you would have acted.

bwana devil 06-28-2007 04:12 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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from the op: "it's time to bust the [censored] out of there."

you're the one making it sound like the guy is gonna rape you or set you on fire or something. the sense of urgency you are conveying is a bit ridiculous.



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Understood. It was a figure of speech more than anything else.


I'm not running out with arms flailing yelling "NEGRO! NEGRO!", but I am just packing up and heading out most likely.

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why are you having an argument about race w/ yourself? that's the third time youve mentioned race and no one is really biting.

David H 06-28-2007 04:42 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
I don't expect some shady-looking dude to be walking around with a pair of bolt cutters tucked in his pants...While I would find the situation a little unsettling, I wouldn't think twice about locking all my stuff up.

Are you really arguing that your co-worker is an idiot for not assuming this guy had a pair of bolt cutters and was ready to cut through his lock as soon as he left the locker room? That is just stupid.

traz 06-28-2007 04:44 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
Put a lock on the locker and go work out. If your stuff still gets stolen, oh well, [censored] happens. I have no idea what the point of this thread is.

PokerFox 06-28-2007 05:51 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
this thread had so much potential re:irritating office yambags, but failed to deliver. Not your fault OP.

superadvisor 06-28-2007 06:00 PM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
He had a padlock but he wrote the combination on the back of it.

27offsuit 06-29-2007 09:46 AM

Re: How avoidable is this to you?
 
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He had a padlock but he wrote the combination on the back of it.

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This is both funny and plausible.


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