Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for raptor
 

heres some build up details..

a couple months ago me and durr were talking crap to each other, and he said he could beat a grandmaster at chess if the GM was playing down a knight. i said lolol so we booked 5k. fast forward a couple months, get a few drinks in me at pf changs, and hes SOOO confident, so we end up betting 50k with the GM down a rook.

fast forward a week later, i get curtains to play for me and give him a 10% freeroll. curtains is an international master, so hes pretty solid, and i dont really know any GMs so i went with the easy route cuz i didnt think it would matter much..

anyways, first 5k game where curtains is down a knight, curtains wins decidedly. we used a 45 minute clock on that one. i also booked 4.5 to 1 somewhere in the middle of the match where curtains had a dominating position for 2k more, so up 7k there. durr had random bets in between to other people, so maybe lost 9k total or something.

for the main event, we were supposed to play a single 50k match with curtains down a rook, but durr wanted to decrease variance or something stupid, so we went with a best of 3 match for 55k total. after seeing the first game, i realized durr didnt have much of a chance, and jcmoussa booked 700 at 3.5 to 1 or something silly with me as well.

anyways, first match just finished, with curtains winning fairly solidly again.. durr was in a few manageable positions, but managed to donk it off with some ill timed moves. so.. 1 more win to go. we ended up coinflipping for all of the details, as in which side the rook/knight would be taken away, and which color would be played. so far durr played white first game with curtains down queen side knight, and white for the first game of the main event with curtains down his king side rook. this next game has durr playing white with curtains down his queen side rook.

anyways, this is probably one of the bigger bets done on chess in history. most people realize what their edge is and wont gamble on it, as you know, its a skill game and all. but yea, im having a good month so far with one of my horsies winning a bracelet, and it looks like its about to get better. details to follow soon..

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this is [censored] awesome

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I do have to say, though a great poker player, durrrr is one of the biggest prop betting fish I know.

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2nd

This is so [censored] baller. Great work rapdurrr.

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who won a bracelet for you?

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well a knight is worth what 3 points? yeah im sure the edge of a guy like curtains on an unskilled chess player is more like 6 points or maybe even more. pretty sick prop bet and great idea raptor. please more videos of jumping off houses.

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who won a bracelet for you?

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ryan young 1500 nl.

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Durrr actually played match 1 with Black and is playing match 2 with white now. Should there be a 3rd match he gets white again.

One of the best lines from the chess match #1:

Durrr: damn I screwed up back there, if I didnt make that mistake I couldve won this one.

Curtains: Now let's not get carried away.




-Apathy

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Sick. There's a reason people don't gamble on chess. Well.... normal people.

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I can't even imagine the prop bets that go on in your house Raptor. Nice one.

What's the biggest/craziest prop bet you guys have ever had?

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Also, how does Curtains rate his edge in this game?

Did Durr ever have a chance or did he just bet 60k drawing stone dead....

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raptor I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you

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sick. So +ev

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LOL. I switched from chess (Grandmaster 2580 elo) to poker because in poker 'The bad players don't know they are bad'. Makes you wonder...

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I do have to say, though a great poker player, durrrr is one of the biggest prop betting fish I know.

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i wonder if there were any suckers there that put action on durr?
man it would be sweet if someone could've hustled somebody into taking action on durr in a side bet getting only
2-1........

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LOL. I switched from chess (Grandmaster 2580 elo) to poker because in poker 'The bad players don't know they are bad'. Makes you wonder...

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In golf the players know they're bad too, but people learn how to handicap.

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unless durrr is a club level player (which would have been mentioned i guess) this is very very +EV for raptorrrrr

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2nd match about half way or more done now. Curtains said he is in "good" position when Durrr left the room briefly.

Uh oh...

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Also Curtains said he can reconstruct the entire match(es) from memory so maybe he would do that for everyone if there is interest (not sure if he would spend time on that or not).

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I can't even imagine the prop bets that go on in your house Raptor. Nice one.

What's the biggest/craziest prop bet you guys have ever had?

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this is without a doubt the sickest, though it prob has v v v low variance for me. im pretty much a lock in every respect. durrr = fish

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Also, how does Curtains rate his edge in this game?

Did Durr ever have a chance or did he just bet 60k drawing stone dead....

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'i win 100% of the time in this bet' -curtains

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Also, how does Curtains rate his edge in this game?

Did Durr ever have a chance or did he just bet 60k drawing stone dead....

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'i win 100% of the time in this bet' -curtains

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I had a feeling.... That's some pretty sick [censored]. 0% chance of beating an IM down a rook. And he originally wanted to play a GM down a knight... What convinced him that this was in any way feasible?

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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I would love to challenge a GM up a rook!!

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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and... RAPTOR WINS!!! sorry durr durr, very well done curtains.. hes super sick chess player.

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durrr another 50k bet is all u can do......

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.

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its really not as easy as you think.

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I don't think your average Simon Sundayplayer has a chance against an IM even with rook odds, so yeah, this was pretty awful for durr.

I think I could at least draw, probably win, an IM if I had rook odds.

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.

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its really not as easy as you think.

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i'm not saying anyone who has ever played the game should be able to win this, but any serious chess player -- even one that's not that good among serious chess players -- should. it's kind of like playing nlh with the button every hand.

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Can you post the games?

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.

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its really not as easy as you think.

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i'm not saying anyone who has ever played the game should be able to win this, but any serious chess player -- even one that's not that good among serious chess players -- should. it's kind of like playing nlh with the button every hand.

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Good analogy.

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did curtains try to pull the:
pawn e2 to e4
queen d1 to f3
bishop f1 to c4
queen takes pawn from f3 to f7 checkmate
gg

move because that wouldve been pretty lol to do

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wtf is all this rating of chess players... where does this come from?

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.

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its really not as easy as you think.

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i'm not saying anyone who has ever played the game should be able to win this, but any serious chess player -- even one that's not that good among serious chess players -- should. it's kind of like playing PLO with the button every hand.

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Game 1, I'm white, king's rook is missing. I actually overlooked ...Qxd4.





1.d4 d5 2.c4 Bf5 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bf4 e6 5.c5 Qa5 6.a3 Bxc5 7.dxc5 Qxc5 8.Rc1 d4 9.Ne4 Qa5+ 10.b4 Qxa3 11.Nd6+ Ke7 12.Qxd4 Nd7 13.e4 Bg6 14.Ra1 c5 15.Qxg7 Qxb4+ 16.Bd2 Qd4 17.Qxd4 cxd4 18.Bb4 Kf6 19.f4 e5 20.f5 Bh5 21.h3 Nh6 22.Bd2 Ke7 23.Nxb7 Rab8 24.Na5 Rhc8 25.Bxh6 f6 26.Bc1 Kf7 27.g4 Nc5 28.gxh5 Nxe4 29.Bc4+ Ke8 30.Ne2 Nd6 31.Be6 Rc7 32.Ba3 Ne4 33.Bd5 Nc5 34.Bc6+ Kf8 35.Bxc5+ Kg7 36.Bd6 Rxc6 37.Nxc6 Rb6 38.Rxa7+ Kh6 39.Bf8+ Kxh5 40.Rxh7+ Kg5 41.Ne7 Rb1+ 42.Kf2 d3 43.Bh6+ Kh4 44.Be3# 1-0

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?

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hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.

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you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.

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That's not true, a piece advantage would likely be enough for me against a GM if it's not a very fast time control. But a pawn never, i would be crushed. I am rated just above 2000 FIDE.

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Were you allowed to castle with the missing rook?

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Also Curtains said he can reconstruct the entire match(es) from memory so maybe he would do that for everyone if there is interest (not sure if he would spend time on that or not).

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Oh yeah that would be awesome. Plus it wouldn't be that tedious if he's used to typing out notation. A level players should be able to remember a game move for move.

Was durrr drinking/drugging during the match? I can't see him taking this bet without knowing he had a solid chance. In a non-blitz game, an IM giving rook odds to a competent player would be at a disadvantage, though the term 'competent' is relative and might have a different meaning in my head than another's.