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When is the last time a low limit level was removed from the poker rooms in AC? Was there ever a 1/2 limit game? Anyone have any thoughts on when 2/4 limit or 1/2 nl would be removed from poker rooms?

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I don't remember 1/2 limit being spread in any form of poker in AC, and that's going back to legalization in 93'. You used to see $1-$3 Stud around that time and you don't see it anymore, but that's probably more a function of hold'em taking over than anything.

I wouldn't look for $2-$4 LH to disappear anytime soon. The old nits that populate AC year-round like it too much.

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There were 1/2 limit holdem games at the Taj Majal and Bally's when I went there in 2004, I played them my first times playing in a casino.

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There used to be a 1/2lhe game downtown in Vegas, but can't remember where.

2/4 will not go away. I was in a 3/6 game at the Fitzgerald and people came by, asked the stakes, and said they wanted to play 2/4. That's unlikely to change.

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There used to be a 1/2lhe game downtown in Vegas, but can't remember where.

2/4 will not go away. I was in a 3/6 game at the Fitzgerald and people came by, asked the stakes, and said they wanted to play 2/4. That's unlikely to change.


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The point is that it will change..

There was a time when a .25/.50 game would have more "money" on the table than a current 3/6. Inflation keeps going, money keeps losing value.

One day the rake from 2/4 (and 3/6) will not be worth the space the tables take.

The question is when..

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There used to be a 1/2lhe game downtown in Vegas, but can't remember where.

2/4 will not go away. I was in a 3/6 game at the Fitzgerald and people came by, asked the stakes, and said they wanted to play 2/4. That's unlikely to change.


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The point is that it will change..

There was a time when a .25/.50 game would have more "money" on the table than a current 3/6. Inflation keeps going, money keeps losing value.

One day the rake from 2/4 (and 3/6) will not be worth the space the tables take.

The question is when..

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That's pretty much what I figured. It's got to go away sooner or later. I thought there might be people here old enough to remember a time before 2/4.

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There were 1/2 limit holdem games at the Taj Majal and Bally's when I went there in 2004, I played them my first times playing in a casino.

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Whaaa? 1/2 limit at the Taj in 2004?!

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The El Cortez used to spread a 1/3 hold em game. Don't know if that is still the case...haven't been there in a few months.

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When is the last time a low limit level was removed from the poker rooms in AC? Was there ever a 1/2 limit game? Anyone have any thoughts on when 2/4 limit or 1/2 nl would be removed from poker rooms?

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I believe the Bike is spreading a 1/2 holdem and Omaha8 game, tho I think the o8 is now 2/4. Hawaian Gardens spreads a 20 Max NL game with 1/1 blinds.

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Turning stone has some stupid 1-1 blind limit game, I don't know what it is. It's either 1-2 or miniblind 2-4 I think

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Hollywood Park has 1-2 stud....it will make you want to kick a baby.

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There used to be a 1/2lhe game downtown in Vegas, but can't remember where.

2/4 will not go away. I was in a 3/6 game at the Fitzgerald and people came by, asked the stakes, and said they wanted to play 2/4. That's unlikely to change.


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The point is that it will change..

There was a time when a .25/.50 game would have more "money" on the table than a current 3/6. Inflation keeps going, money keeps losing value.

One day the rake from 2/4 (and 3/6) will not be worth the space the tables take.

The question is when..

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I've used this reasoning to argue that the buyin of the WSOP ME should be raised, but that still hasn't happened in over 35 years.

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i played 1-3 no ante stud in foxwoods a lot years ago to avoid the 50c ante in the $1-5, but the $1-3 was NO ANTE, the rake was heavier but i didnt care as long as i didnt have to ante. and i still love playing $1-5 spread holdem in wendover NV where its just 1 $1 blind. used to be a guy with a $200 bankroll could slowly and carefully run it up to $1000 in a few months by solid careful play. now u better have at least a $500 bankroll just to walk in the door of a casino. thats a shame so many casinos got rid of the low limits. thank God the casino in FL raising their limits u can still buyin the NL games for $50-300 instead of a FLAT $100. wish i could find a NL game with a $20 min buyin somewhere, like i do online, and dont tell me no one wants to play that low, over 10 million people are playing that low online.

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There has been a shift from $3/6 toward $4/8 in the Washington state cardrooms over the last few years, IMO - some of it driven by the rooms themselves (the Muck for instance was only spreading 3 tables of 3/6 no matter how long the list was, but might have 6 or 8 tables of 4/8). The small rooms often run only $4/8, whereas they once might have run $3/6.

The trend seems to be different elsewhere, with $2/4 emerging as a common live game - seems to me a lot of places didn't spread lower than $3/6 until very recently.

As for the rake, makes very little difference to the house: pots hit the max rake pretty fast even at $3/6, so the house is making essentially the same amount per table regardless of the limit.

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I've used this reasoning to argue that the buyin of the WSOP ME should be raised, but that still hasn't happened in over 35 years.

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Bad argument, imho. Keeping the ME buyin the same continues the tradition and makes it the People's Game. It also allows the $50K HORSE to rise up and become the true championship, without damaging the WSOP by making a radical change.

I would hate to see the ME go the way of the Wynning of the Strip, as in, making it beyond the reach of the Common Man.

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To directly answer the OP's question, 1-5 Stud was removed from the Trop a few weeks ago and replaced with 3/6 Stud.

I would guess is when the casino replacing the Sands opens several years from now it might not spread 2-4 Limit. I'm a little surprised Borgata still does; it doesn't need the "old nit" business like Taj or Trop does. But 1/2 NL isn't going anywhere for a long time.

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There used to be a 1/2lhe game downtown in Vegas, but can't remember where.

2/4 will not go away. I was in a 3/6 game at the Fitzgerald and people came by, asked the stakes, and said they wanted to play 2/4. That's unlikely to change.


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The point is that it will change..

There was a time when a .25/.50 game would have more "money" on the table than a current 3/6. Inflation keeps going, money keeps losing value.

One day the rake from 2/4 (and 3/6) will not be worth the space the tables take.

The question is when..

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I've used this reasoning to argue that the buyin of the WSOP ME should be raised, but that still hasn't happened in over 35 years.

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12 million was not enough for first place... What's acceptable 100 million.

WSOP is good for poker and limiting the amount of players might be bad for poker.

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There used to be a 1/2lhe game downtown in Vegas, but can't remember where.

2/4 will not go away. I was in a 3/6 game at the Fitzgerald and people came by, asked the stakes, and said they wanted to play 2/4. That's unlikely to change.


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The point is that it will change..

There was a time when a .25/.50 game would have more "money" on the table than a current 3/6. Inflation keeps going, money keeps losing value.

One day the rake from 2/4 (and 3/6) will not be worth the space the tables take.

The question is when..

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That's pretty much what I figured. It's got to go away sooner or later. I thought there might be people here old enough to remember a time before 2/4.

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There were 1/2 limit holdem games at the Taj Majal and Bally's when I went there in 2004, I played them my first times playing in a casino.

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Whaaa? 1/2 limit at the Taj in 2004?!

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I swear! My first time playing in a casino. I played at the Taj one day and Bally's the next, both 1/2 limit. I'm pretty sure the Taj was the place that didn't have 50 cent chips, so you just used quarters to post the small blind.