200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $148.65
BB: $946.40
<u>Hero (UTG): $237.70</u>
MP: $83.95
<u>CO: $197.85</u>
BTN: $150.40

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 38/20/8 over 250 hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $8.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, CO calls $14.00

Turn: ($47) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, CO calls $32.00

River: ($111) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $64.00</font>, Hero?


Is my turn bet fine?

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

Could we get a worse river than that? I guess 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]... I like the turn bet, it's tough on the river though. I'm leaning towards check/call... villain is loose enough to call from the cutoff with 56...89, all of which are beating you. But this could also be a missed flush. And I think it is more likely to be missed flush than straight/set/boat. Getting 3-1. I make the crying call.

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are you folding to a turn raise i guess? if so i like it.
i check/fold the river though.

is bet/fold like 60 okay though ? i dont normally do it though but curious how good/bad it is.

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I usually just CRAI on the turn versus somebody aggro. His flop calling range doesn't normally include 2-pair or sets as I would expect a raise from those on drawy boards. So, the majority of his hands are drawing hands and CRAI makes those hands pay. You just have to be willing to feel like a fool when he flips A8 on occasion.

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

aggro donk, I think I call this river.we need to be good 36.5% here.

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

Almost everything got there on the river. Sometimes I call sometimes I fold, the majority of time you are beat here.

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

Very interesting hand.

I think you can rule out a set or an 8 after the flatcall on such a draw-heavy flop..

Id say theres a nice chance hes running a very fat draw on the turn, and you could have bet something in the 40-50 range to give you a little more info:

1. A bigger turn bet makes him pay more to chase a fat straight/flush draw like Ah6h
2. A bigger turn bet weeds out a naked flush draw unless he's a real donk.

The turn bet of only 32 puts you in a difficult decision on this river. Open-ended Flushdraw seems very likely, but he could also have Air, missing the naked flush draw.

I put him on around 65% Xh6h,6x7x,...etc and 35% air.


I edited this post because I missed the part about him being an aggro donk...I think 67 is more viable now, as well as some other weak drawing hands... Very tough call, but I think you have to make it.

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

I think the turn is the most interesting part of the hand. I still don't know whether check/calling, check/pushing, or just betting around $35 is the correct play.

The more I think about it the more I favor a check/push.

River looks like a fold.

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c/ring turn seems to be teh nuts... I think I call river .. not enough info to fold

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

I think you played this well -

I would call -

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

Against theese players i would call because they well bet alot of hands every time you check.

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

I like the way you played it.

Now call because a myriad of draws will bet and we are ahead more than 1/4 of the time.

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

CRAI at the turn is the best here

at the river it's close but i prefere a call

Re: 200NL- QQ OOP vs. Aggro Donk
 

Stefan K ftw. Checkraising here is superhot. He will bet this really many times, and he isnt on a FH here often at all just calling that drawy flop.

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I think the turn is meh, okay. Not great, but it's okay. He floated the flop and seems to be doing the same on the turn. I call and if he flips an 8 or 6, good for him. nh.

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I think the turn is meh, okay. Not great, but it's okay. He floated the flop and seems to be doing the same on the turn. I call and if he flips an 8 or 6, good for him. nh.

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What about flipping up two 8s FTW?

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I think the turn is meh, okay. Not great, but it's okay. He floated the flop and seems to be doing the same on the turn. I call and if he flips an 8 or 6, good for him. nh.

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What about flipping up two 8s FTW?

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Jeez, that hand didnt even cross my mind..Very possible given his line, but so hard to account for...Those are hands that will bust you with so many draws out there..

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I think you can fold the river alot. Turn is okay, though if he's super aggro, c/r-ing can be pretty hawt.