I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

This guy was 20/16 and a reg. I had 14,000 hands on this guy. He might be 2+2. He constantly raised the button especially when they it was folded to him and was quite aggro on this table.

I felt there was a good chance he was on a steal and would fold, if he called then if I hit an A or T on a dry board then I would probably be good.

What do you do on the flop now he calls and we missed?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($246.25)
Hero ($105.80)
BB ($430.30)
UTG ($115.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8.

Flop: ($24.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $24.50

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

Bet about 17 or so.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

I forgot to add that my image was pretty LAG. I had a hot streak of cards and over the first 20 hands I was 58/20/4 but after 50 hands I was 38/14/3.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

pretty standard spot though i'd rather do it with a less trouble hand.

I typically bet out as he is folding a large part of his range on that flop providing you havent been too aggro.

I know it sounds spewy but c/r can often be good here, obviously not as standard but still good imo

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

make it tiny bit more pre($13.5) since oop.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

Seems like a decent amount for a continuation bet. Let's talk about turn play if he flat-calls. Say a trey falls.. Dare we two-barrel for the rest of our stack? I'm leaning towards just shutting down, but can't help but ponder other possibilities to get this guy off 88 or 99.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

If you don't want to cbet a really dry flop like this, than don't 3 bet him preflop in the first place.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

just do whatever you would do with AA

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

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If you don't want to cbet a really dry flop like this, than don't 3 bet him preflop in the first place.

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Ok. Thats a fair point and thats what I did. When he called i wanted to puke and I guess he must have a hand. However he is a regular and my image was pretty damn loose so he could be trying to float me. Do we simply c/f or try to take the pot away on the turn?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($246.25)
SB ($201)
Hero ($105.80)
UTG ($430.30)
MP ($115.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8.

Flop: ($24.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, Button calls $17.

Turn: ($58.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

Bet $42.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

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Ok. Thats a fair point and thats what I did. When he called i wanted to puke

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Is this the first time you've 3-bet him light and c-bet the flop with air? How do you have 14k hands on the guy? It makes a big difference if this is datamined vs. you've played 14k hands with him.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

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Ok. Thats a fair point and thats what I did. When he called i wanted to puke

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Is this the first time you've 3-bet him light and c-bet the flop with air? How do you have 14k hands on the guy? It makes a big difference if this is datamined vs. you've played 14k hands with him.

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The 14k hands are datamined. I haven't played much with him and I have no notes other than those in OP. I haven't 3-bet him light before but I have been raising alot and c-betting a lot. I have also folded to flop raises and floats as well.

I didn't really like any of my options. If I check I am pretty certain he is betting, regardless of his hand. If I bet then he could fold if he has nothing but I am not sure he is calling my PF 3-bet then my c-bet with air and there weren't any draws on the flop.

I just didn't like the spot at all and was a bit lost.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

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Bet $42.

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Am I not then commiting myself to this pot with nothing but a gutshot?
What do I do if he shoves?
What do I do on the river if he flat calls?

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

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Bet $42.

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Am I not then commiting myself to this pot with nothing but a gutshot?
What do I do if he shoves?
What do I do on the river if he flat calls?

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If he raises me I'd fold, if he calls I'd c/f river. I might just open shove turn to maximize FE.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

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Bet $42.

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Am I not then commiting myself to this pot with nothing but a gutshot?
What do I do if he shoves?
What do I do on the river if he flat calls?

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If he raises me I'd fold, if he calls I'd c/f river. I might just open shove turn to maximize FE.

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You realize he would only have 35 left after betting 42 right?

OP: Because it's FTP, I think the right play here is to insta-pot it (obv. call a shove getting 9:1). If I were villain and you do this, I would put you on AK a lot of the time and fold most of my range. Depending on your image though shoving might actually have more fold equity, and checking isn't bad either. This is a spot where I think most options are close, so in the long run it doesn't matter much what you do.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

This is a good turn card for a shove. I like the insta-pot and obviously being committed for whatever little you've got left.

Re: I re-raised aggro button steal. Now What?
 

The turn K improves your range so I'd say its a decent card to bluff at. Probably just shove since I'd shove AA/KK/AK/JJ here.