Should I have left this table?
 

I was playing 4/8 limit at the Trop on saturday at around midnight I was in the 6 seat to my right was an old lady who kept taking more 100s out of her purse every 10 hands or so. In addition to that she was the biggest, oldest calling station EVER. To make things even sweeter every time she looked at her cards I could either see both suits or at least 1 suit and 1 value. The only reason that I left was there to my immediate right were 3 drunk douches that were raising dark and calling down but hitting their hands and I couldn't overcome them to make up for the ATM to my right. Would you have left or stayed?

Re: Should I have left this table?
 

If you are not comfortable, leave. However, sounds like a juicy table.

Personally, I would have told the woman once about seeing her cards -- after that, it's up to her.

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I stay and try not to look at the old lady's cards. The drunks should be as much of an ATM as the old lady.

Something wrong in your post though. Was the old lady to you're immediate right or the drunks? They can't both be.

Re: Should I have left this table?
 

You are describing a table I wouldn't leave unless the room was on fire.

And even then, I'd have to think about it.

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Move up to where you respect their raises.

BTW, you should tell the lady to protect her cards. Drunks hitting their hands is a result of your bad karma [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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The drunk people were to my left.

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why did you leave again?
bad, drunk players won a few hds so you left?

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I know they would be good for my bankroll but they were affecting me negatively and I wanted to find a game I could enjoy.

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If it were me I would have stuck it out but if you were not comfortable and it was affecting your decision-making than by all means find a new table.I thik most of us here would love to be on this table however.

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I would have changed the address on my drivers license, and got my mail forwarded to that table.

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I read the OP, but then the post wasn't titled "The Reason We Put on Pants and Play Live Poker." It was weird.

Try a seat change. It's not like the drunks will care.

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move up to where they respect your raises obv

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If this ins't the ideal game, then I don't know what is.

Three drunk laggies and a total fish. You just have to be more tight PF when laggies are to act behind. That's it. Just play ABC poker and profit.

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I wanted to find a game I could enjoy

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If this is why you play poker, then you obviously made the right decision.

-McGee

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I always tell players when I can see their cards. Once they think I'm honest I have them right where I want them.

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Even though you are taking crap for leaving - and I admit that this does sound like a great table - I commend you for having the discipline to leave a situation where you felt uncomfortable. If some players were putting off your game by being too aggressive, you're better off getting out of there instead of going on tilt or turning into a calling station yourself.

However, I would say that you might consider anticipating this kind of action in the future and preparing your bankroll and mental state accordingly. Drunk LAGs = money in your pocket.

Re: Should I have left this table?
 

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I wanted to find a game I could enjoy

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If this is why you play poker, then you obviously made the right decision.

-McGee

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Yeah, if you have a tilt problem and are concsious about it, or if you're not playing purely for money and think making money this way isn't fun, then you can leave.

If you are trying to make money and have good emotional control this is a dream table, but as others have said not the best seat.

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I played the other day with a maniac drunk raiser (9 out of 10 hands raised preflop, 9 out of 10 raised on every street following) two seats to my right, and a guy who called blind every single hand even if it was 4 bets to him preflop.

It was a dream, even though I had big swings up and down, I could nail the gambling caller to my left with three bets when I had a hand, isolate against him and the weak preflop raiser, and pad the hell out of pots that I was a favorite to win. You need to tighten up preflop, but be ready with the chips when you've got something worthwhile. Buy an extra rack, be patient, and jam the suited connectors and high pairs. Even though you'll get drawn out on more than normal (large pots = everyone chasing and calling down) the pots you do rake more than make up for it.

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Good point. When you do win a few pots on a table like this they are usually on the huge size. More than makes up for the ones you dont win.

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As a side note, playing at these tables also can be a ton of fun in my opinion. You're not playing as many hands, but you're almost always getting odds to draw to straights and flushes, and you can semi-bluff those when you back into a high pair. This confuses the hell out of the weak players at the table, who decide you're drawing badly and showing down runner runner winners and middle pairs because you're a loose player. The players sitting scared in between the drunk raisers won't respect you unless they're also counting pot odds and outs, and your image will let you charge them too in the few hands the raisers pass on.

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Let's answer your question first:

I'd have stayed. This is the most profitable situation you're ever going to find. That being said, once when I was at one of those tables, the drunks couldn't miss and ended up taking as much as I was willing to lose for the evening.

In your case, if you were primarily playing to have fun (as opposed to winning money), a concept alien to most of us here, you should leave the table.

If you're concerned because you can't win money at this kind of table, you should learn how to win money at this kind of table.

If you lose your dollar limit -- it's a tough call, because from an ev point of view, this is the case where you want to get the emergency money out. However, I'm personally very strict, when I lose what I'm prepared to lose, I leave, regardless of the circumstances.

FWIW, I'd have told the sweet old lady that she was flashing her cards -- once. If she keeps doing it, she's on her own.