25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

villian is brand new to stars and adz was calling him a fish and challenging him to hu earlier. But hes also multitabling 10/20 and 25/50 and hasnt stepped outta line much and adz does that to everyone... seems like hes almost never betting worse for value or bluffing here.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($3472)
CO ($2680.20)
Button ($10321)
SB ($11816.80)
BB ($8012.65)
UTG ($4675)
MP1 ($2409.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $150</font>, MP1 calls $150, Hero calls $150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $100.

Flop: ($625) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($625) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $450</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $450, BB calls $450.

River: ($1975) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1750</font>, UTG folds, Hero ???

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

Bet the flop?

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

go back to ssnl?

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well villain either has spades or JT imho...perhaps Kx spades? i think that makes this a crying call.

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nvm i'm retarded thought this was vs utg

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i really think this is a fold. BB is never leading out for pot here as a bluff into 2 other people and he is valuebetting worse close to never.

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i will say this, this seems like an awful spot to lead for the pot if the bb rivered the nuts (or another big flush)

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

well, i dont know how tricky this player is, but since you checked behind on the flop he probably doesnt believe that you have two spades... and UTG betting the turn in a 4 player pot on the king is usually not a flush draw either since most players would check again.

However, he called after both of you so the only hand he can have is JT.

its close, but i lean towards calling.

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go back to ssnl?

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Not bet the flop?

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

I fold for sure

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lol

such an easy flop bet,

also, this guy is c/cing with a FD on the turn?

call river so fasttttttttttttt

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to add, we have a bluff catcher and i cannot imagine any sane multitabler bluffing here.

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What do people think if hero has 100bb and we shove as a bluff on this river?

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What do people think if hero has 100bb and we shove as a bluff on this river?

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LoL
Sounds great!
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Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

Bet flop - fold turn - push river ?

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

I make a Hero Call here.

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

fold i guess not like its a lock,standard to let it go here man

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

Low stakes question:

Calling 65s with 70BB stack without the button standard?

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

what the [censored] is wrong in this thread

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

results?

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bb had aj naked ace of spades and potted the river as a bluff

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v nh by hiom (i'm serious)

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v nh by hiom (i'm serious)

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you realize that the turn is a street in the hand in which poker was played right?

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Re: title - that's what she said.

hah sorry I'm so high.

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v nh by hiom (i'm serious)

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you realize that the turn is a street in the hand in which poker was played right?

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i'm confused by what you're saying

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v nh by hiom (i'm serious)

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you realize that the turn is a street in the hand in which poker was played right?

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i'm confused by what you're saying

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he misplayed the turn.

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v nh by hiom (i'm serious)

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you realize that the turn is a street in the hand in which poker was played right?

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i'm confused by what you're saying

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he misplayed the turn.

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yea, seems like a pretty retarded turn play, but if it's with the plan to pot all spade or ten rivers, it's almost pretty cool

what i mean is, his line would be horrible with a flush- but a bunch of people are ALMOST folding a small flush here to the pot sized lead, so they're probably folding a [censored] ton else &lt; a flush. seems good as a bluff only- which is why iw oudl never be folding a flush here obv.

i was tlking to someone over aim about this hand, and we decided we kind of liked it with JT if he was potting all spade rivers

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

I would have bet the flop.

Calling the turn looks boarder line. It clearly depends on your image at the table, that we dont really know.

As someone said it previously, if your opponent is a tricky player and thinks you do not have the spades since you check the flop on the button, he could bluff with 10J. At the same time, he could have the spades and just make a massive bet on 2 people whom he suspects to be able to call its bet with a K because his bet sounds like a bluff.

Shoving on the river, as some people previously suggested it, is the worst move ever!
With such a board it is obvious that we are going to be called only by better hands and considering the strengh of our hand, it is clear that a call does exactly the same job as shoving without taking the risk to be called by a better hand

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

I wouldn't fold; looks like u have Kx or like JJ and he thinks he can get u off the hand IMO... as played I say this is a calldown and jus a cooler if u lose.

Re: 25/50... ugh, can i get off this?
 

All I can say is ick.. and as long as this guy is somewhat nitty im willing to fold here.

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If the op here had j10 or aj a spades and was the one who in the bb bet the the 1750 on the river would people consider this a spew? Because it looks to me as people are throwing some seriously powerful hands away

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Easy call. You easily win this more than 1 time in 3, so you're good from the odds standpoint.

Plus, it seems borderline retarded to pay for your draw on the turn, then fold when you make it on the river.

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Easy call. You easily win this more than 1 time in 3, so you're good from the odds standpoint.

Plus, it seems borderline retarded to pay for your draw on the turn, then fold when you make it on the river.

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Well, that settles it. End of thread, Everyone.

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I dont post in High Stakes, nor do i play particularly high. But wtf that advice by u sir is horrible please don't post here again