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Mr.WeakTight 06-12-2007 02:56 AM

playing the 88822 board
 
I'm not in this hand, but I found it humorous; and a good reminder lesson.

2 players left in the hand on the river. hispanic and older white haired lady. the dealer stacks the pot into two even piles. he bets, she raises, he calls. she turns over A2o (playing the board - she has eights full of deuces). he releases his cards face down toward the muck.

the dealer says "you're mucking your hand?" and takes it and pushes the pot to her. hispanic's friend tells him he's made a mistake. floor is called. floor upholds dealer.

toostoney 06-12-2007 03:28 AM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
I saw a similar thing today, 34567 on the board, 4 players left, i turns over 67, one Q3, dont remember the other one, then the SB mucks and its chopped 3 way. LOL

Photoc 06-12-2007 03:32 AM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not in this hand, but I found it humorous; and a good reminder lesson.

2 players left in the hand on the river. hispanic and older white haired lady. the dealer stacks the pot into two even piles. he bets, she raises, he calls. she turns over A2o (playing the board - she has eights full of deuces). he releases his cards face down toward the muck.

the dealer says "you're mucking your hand?" and takes it and pushes the pot to her. hispanic's friend tells him he's made a mistake. floor is called. floor upholds dealer.

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Dealer shouldn't be saying anything in this case. Just push the pot. Also, one player to a hand, so no other players should be saying anything. Same as when 4 or 5 of one suit hit the board and a dealer cannot/shouldn't say "who's got the highest <insert suit here>?"

Floor ruling was fine. Standard ruling is in order to claim any portion of the pot, even if you're playing the board, you must show both hole cards.

Photoc 06-12-2007 03:35 AM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
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I saw a similar thing today, 34567 on the board, 4 players left, i turns over 67, one Q3, dont remember the other one, then the SB mucks and its chopped 3 way. LOL

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I dealt a hand that had 7777A on the board. River action 5 ways. Bet, raise, 3 bet, fold, fold. both call. First guy says thanks for the raising cuz it's a 3 way chop instead of 5 ways. (rake was already capped and it was a 4/8 game). I couldn't help but laugh and the other players that folded were completely in shock that they weren't paying attention and folded when the nuts were on the board. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

lippy 06-12-2007 04:07 AM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
Happens ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the time...

sternroolz 06-12-2007 10:38 AM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
Hawaiian Gardens $8-16 LHE. 5 to the flop. Checked around on flop, turn, and river. Final board is 10JQKAr. First player turns over his hand as does 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. 5th player looks at his hand, looks at the board, looks at his hand again, mumbles, and mucks.

ikestoys 06-12-2007 01:12 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
lol i saw a guy push 24o on a QQQQ board, we split his money

Rottersod 06-12-2007 06:12 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
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Happens ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the time...

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

Jeffage 06-12-2007 06:22 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
I've always wondered - is the dealer supposed to stack the pot in situations like this before the action is complete? It's not a split pot game and it seems like he shouldn't since he is giving information (prob a split pot) to a player that may (however unlikely) be unaware.

Jeff

bav 06-12-2007 06:36 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
NO! The dealer is *NOT* supposed to prestack the pot.

Photoc 06-12-2007 07:57 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
[ QUOTE ]
I've always wondered - is the dealer supposed to stack the pot in situations like this before the action is complete? It's not a split pot game and it seems like he shouldn't since he is giving information (prob a split pot) to a player that may (however unlikely) be unaware.

Jeff

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The only time you ever stack a pot before the conclusion of a hand is in split pot games specifically. You're basically telling the players the hand is over and we'll just chop it up by stacking it. No to mention, the dealer isn't getting anything from 5 players chopping a pot. He/she has a better chance of something from 2 players chopping the same pot though.

WillYumTX 06-12-2007 09:08 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
This past weekend, I was playing 2/5 NL HE. One player bets $100 on the suited flop. One player calls. Heads up.

Turn comes. Four to a flush on board. Check, check.
River comes. Flush on board. Check, check.

Initial raiser shows his 2,2 for a flopped set. Other player looks at his cards and mucks face down. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Dealer does not pull in the mucked cards and says there is a flush. Mucked player is not paying attention and so then the dealer kills his cards.

Meraxes 06-13-2007 12:56 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
I had a dealer prestack a pot that was 4-ways going to the river with a 4-straight on the board. Fortunately I filled up on the river, and tipped him a little extra for saving me the trouble.

Speaking of people mucking incorrectly: Twice at the same table I had two people open fold to me for a side pot when the saw that they couldn't beat the all-in players hand. One time I had middle pair, and the other Ace high (busted draws.)

psandman 06-13-2007 01:39 PM

Re: playing the 88822 board
 
Not to mention that a dealer should not have his hands in the pot any more than is necessary.


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