400NL - KK on Q board
 

Standard so far? Call or fold the push? I'd been 3-betting a fair bit, as had button. UTG was obviously tighter given his stats and it might be too much to give him a lot of credit for noticing.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $1,783.10</u>
BB: $59.70
<u>UTG: $436.00</u>
CO: $430.50
<font color="black">BTN: $934.78</font>

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">UTG: 20/10/2 ~100 hands
Button: 21/17/6 ~500 hands</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $14.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $65.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $51.00, BTN calls $51.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($199) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $120.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $371.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero...

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

I'd probably call then claim that the site is rigged and out to get me.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

very easy call even if the pot odds wasn't &gt; 2.5 to 1

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

easy call

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

What is he flat-calling a 3-bet with knowing there's action behind him? And what is he pushing knowing again that there's someone yet to act?

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

i think you're murdered here but i don't fold

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

once you make that flop bet you have to be prepared to call his push given the stack sizes.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

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What is he flat-calling a 3-bet with knowing there's action behind him? And what is he pushing knowing again that there's someone yet to act?

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AQ

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

i'd expect AA. but getting that price i'm gonna put him on AQ.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

Is checking the flop better?

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

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Is checking the flop better?

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haha no, never

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

AA

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

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Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

Here's your answer:

Board: 8h 5d Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.111% 48.84% 02.27% 10637 495.00 { QQ+, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 48.889% 46.62% 02.27% 10153 495.00 { KhKs }

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

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i think you're murdered here but i don't fold

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why? normally its AQ and its not even close.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

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AA

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yes, it's good to always think this.

[censored] retard.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

You have an overpair in a re-raised pot on Party with ~100bb effective stacks...unless villian is like 7/2/0.0001 over 10 billion hands this shouldn't even be a question.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

I only fold this to someone with an aggression factor below 1 and I only call when it's really deepstacked. In this case easy push.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

AA is Soooooooooooooo much less likely than AQ who is betting for value here btw

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Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

so it's a yes given the amount of money in the pot

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Here's your answer:

Board: 8h 5d Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.111% 48.84% 02.27% 10637 495.00 { QQ+, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 48.889% 46.62% 02.27% 10153 495.00 { KhKs }

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Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

cawl

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

I don't think it's that +ev for you but I'm definitely making the call.

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

u cant fold after bet. probably beat if hes tight player. he proba didnt call pre with AQ and wouldnt move with JJ

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

oh we are crushed so often here vs those type of players, forget about AQ (yeah sometimes) but ur facing a set like always, that said i still call this [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

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once you make that pre flop raise you have to be prepared to call his push given the stack sizes.

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Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

give me a reason.

is the fact that we're 100 bb deep or that AQ is more common than sets that makes you believe we're up against a set more often?

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oh we are crushed so often here vs those type of players, forget about AQ (yeah sometimes) but ur facing a set like always, that said i still call this [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Re: 400NL - KK on Q board
 

players like him doesnt call a reraise with AQ all that often, pairs or AK they do call with, so he has air or a set, and they dont tend to bluff that much, so sets &gt; AK &gt; AQ, how often are we good? i dunno, but like i said i call this like always cause of the fact that theres a small chance he might be bluffing or have AQ