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I realize that I haven't been playing/posting much as of recently, but I have to say that all this Brandi/Sklansky drame has gotten a bit out of hand.

There is no question that this site over the years has gone from focusing primarily on educating poker players to more of a gossip forum which is now bordering on very questionable regarding good taste and morality.

I used to have the utmost respect for DS, and I do owe much of the success I enjoyed playing poker over the last ten years to him. I have to admit that I am a little troubled by his recent behaivor.

I used to engage in bickering/insulting/bs-ing with Angelo, El D, etc., but we could all stick up for ourselves and it was intended to be good-natured. I don't think that all this Brandi stuff is healthy or in good taste, and it should not be promoted by the co-founder of this once-fine site.

TSP

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Clearly, your opinion deserves a new thread.

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it creates traffic and money. plus it creates a public service. people like brandi will think twice about stealing $70,000 or however much it was from people's online accounts

....and then go online and slander the person she stole from

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It's kind of like Clinton and Monica, but much more trailer-parkish.

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TSP,

Good thoughts, but I think you are preaching to the wrong crowd.

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The site in general is still by far mostly poker strategy... you're complaining about poker gossip being posted in the GOSSIP forum?

edit: maybe you're just complaining about the godfather himself getting involved in this gossip... but i dont see why that matters either.

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ur opinion sucks

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tsp, youre proly right but its still fun to watch. i think its awesome that the popularity of poker has exposed all these low life, degenerate, social morons. im def going to the wsop next year to witness the idiocy first hand.

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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i did not know this.

is this 100% true (that david publicly embarrassed himself for the sake of gaining hits)?

if so: that is weak. i am upset.

out of curiosity, i'd like to know what david's dignity is worth...how many extra hits did this site obtain as a result of his embarassment (i.e. avg hits pre & post event)? and what does advertising revenues work out to on a per X# hit basis?

out with it Mat, Mason, or David!!

i think we should get to know what price the "poker daddy" puts on his honor.

Barron

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Apparently not much at this point. Can you imagine Doyle, Lederer, Chan, or even Hellmuth turning cartwheels over this nitwit like Sklansky is doing? Pitiful.

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Dude, it "sells newspapers". Why do you think Paris being thrown back in the Gray Bar Hilton was the major story on the same day that the Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff resigned? Its the way of the world. Think ADVERTISEMENT BUCKS . This ain't yo daddy's news paper (forum). <font color="green"> </font> THIS CHIT SELLS

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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Where did he admit this? I don't see that he has posted anything like that on 2+2.

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ban pls.

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"How to Recognize Signs of Senile Dementia"
http://www.ehow.com/how_7379_recogni...ns-senile.html

"Step Five
Monitor inappropriate behavior and impaired judgment. If the person begins to act inappropriately or significantly out of character in social situations, he or she may be showing signs of senile dementia."

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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Where did he admit this? I don't see that he has posted anything like that on 2+2.

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yea i'd like to read that too, and agree that it's pretty lame if true.

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James Woods was in town for his girlfriend's 21st birthday.

Thank god I am over 50 and don't need this sorta stuff to get going. Somebody should introduce them to Viagra.

I'm getting tired of all this celeb stuff, too.

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One big fact that no one seems to want to look in the face is that fame now is rarely based on anything good or wholesome. If you're looking for that level of fame without ever doing anything "questionable", well... the odds of that happening are pretty low.
If Sklansky wants hits on his website, this is imho the easiest and smartest way to achieve that goal. It may mean selling out some ethics. Is that such a punishable offense in this day and age? It seems like everyone is doing it, openly or not. And are all the poker players on this forum really the highest judges of ethics anyway? I'm sure many of us have done things we are not 100% proud of, but for a larger more selfish reason. That is human nature.

Also, I'm not sure what the point is in berating him for his friendship with Brandi.. Do any of you really think you can convince a smart, confident man to stop being friends with someone based on your opinions? Although I don't know the man myself, I'm relatively certain he will make up his own mind about Brandi, as a reasonable adult who can form his own opinions.
The only thing I could say on their relationship is that I hope he is imparting other wisdom to Brandi besides poker smarts alone. If evidence of Sklansky's guidance manifests itself over the summer, I hope there will be more to see in growth than just cards.
And if anything is tasteless on this website, its the empty responses posted by people with not enough information to make those judgements.

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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Where did he admit this? I don't see that he has posted anything like that on 2+2.

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yea i'd like to read that too, and agree that it's pretty lame if true.

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That's really retarded. Skylansky sucks at life.

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One big fact that no one seems to want to look in the face is that fame now is rarely based on anything good or wholesome. If you're looking for that level of fame without ever doing anything "questionable", well... the odds of that happening are pretty low.

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Was fame ever based on anything good or wholesome?

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One big fact that no one seems to want to look in the face is that fame now is rarely based on anything good or wholesome. If you're looking for that level of fame without ever doing anything "questionable", well... the odds of that happening are pretty low.

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Was fame ever based on anything good or wholesome?

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Yea sure, playing sports, being CEO, being a famous scientist.

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well... once upon a time... a looooong looooong time ago... fame was something you garnered by a being a complete amazing bad ass at something. you got it for your skill, it was earned, and you could be a respectable celeb. Not so much these days.

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So you think fame used to be awarded solely on merit? Seems kinda naive

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I'm real bad at searching stuff guys and I don't want to make too big a deal out of it. He mentioned somewhere his co-ownership of 2p2 and how the reason he posts as much as he does was to encourage hits.

There's nothing inherently wrong with that, depending on how it's done. It goes without saying that Skansky authored posts will attract more hits. I see nothing wrong with his posting to increase forum popularity.

Another thing is that this is just my personal opinion. I just think it's kinda degrading for someone of his stature in the poker world to be publicly discussing the tuitions or other things he pays for to the women he goes out with. Even though I'm sure he meant for that most to be humrous.

Again, I'm mostly kidding, but I've never been someone to be star-struck. I couldn't care less about a poker author's love life, or who this brandi is. When David (or Brandi), start talking about themselves, I get the feeling they think they're more important than they are. And that really irks me for some reason. But I guess some people really are interested in what goes on behind closed doors with these people.

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10 K buttsecs, yo?

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Yeah, that is exactly what i'm saying. I'm saying that once upon a time fame was earned through merit. not solely, but mostly. only in the last 100 years has it been drastically different. thats why in history books there are less marie antoinettes and more washingtons, churchills, einsteins.

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well, i think its more degrading to hide who you are and the decisions you make, the truth about our lives, just to impress a bunch of gossip hounds. why shouldn't he be able to say, i do this, and thats my decision, and i stick by it and dont need to defend it to anyone.

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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While this is sad in it's own right it doesn't surprise me. I've always thought David had unique ideas and was obviously smart, but seems completely clueless in his social skills. However, that's just the impression I've always recieved from reading his posts.

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[quoteAlso, I'm not sure what the point is in berating him for his friendship with Brandi.. .

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That don't change the fact that Brandi is batchit crazy and a solid "10" on the psycho biatch scale. That being said, I'd hit it.

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Has Sklansky ever won a poker tournament? Just curious. If not, he would seem to be an odd choice for a tournament poker mentor.

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Has Sklansky ever won a poker tournament? Just curious. If not, he would seem to be an odd choice for a tournament poker mentor.

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if winning a poker tournament is your standard for teaching qualification than only a hundred or so poker players are qualified to teach.

Im sure Sklansky has made over a million dollars from tournaments (he rarely plays them). So he is not qualified you say?

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He has two bracelets, although they are older than Brandi. He's made 1 or 2 WPT final tables also.

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Has Sklansky ever won a poker tournament? Just curious. If not, he would seem to be an odd choice for a tournament poker mentor.

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if winning a poker tournament is your standard for teaching qualification than only a hundred or so poker players are qualified to teach.

Im sure Sklansky has made over a million dollars from tournaments (he rarely plays them). So he is not qualified you say?

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I'm not saying he's not qualified. By his books, he's one of the great poker teachers of all time. I'm just saying that, if your primary interest is tournament poker, you might consider getting a mentor who has had more tournament success.

Having said that, I am available to be Sklansky's next poker pupil after Brandi kicks him to the curb and goes internet-psycho on him. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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[/ QUOTE ]Having said that, I am available to be Sklansky's next poker pupil after Brandi kicks him to the curb and goes internet-psycho on him. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Like are you an underage chic that enjoys buttsecks?

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Funnier/sadder still, is that Sklansky now admits to being paid by Mason for publicly embarrassing himself with these brandi posts for the sake of 2p2.

He has also admitted that the primary reason he starts a thread nowadays is to drum up up "hits" for the site. Personally, I'm a little insulted by this. Here I thought I was taking part in discussions of mutual interest with David. Now I've learned our exchanges have been little more than a ruse to increase 2p2's ad rates. As a result, I've been posting MUCH less lately.

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Of course our discussions have been mere ruses to increase ad rates. You wouldn't believe how many people come up to me breathlessly telling me how excited and titillated they get when they read your posts and my replies on the Science Math and Philosophy Forum regarding, ethics, morals, probability and religion.

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Does Brandi post under your name in that forum at 3:46 AM?

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You may be an old fuddy-duddy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

At least for us American posters -- we live in a country where millions will gladly pay .95cents a text message over and over to help try and make someone who has a God-awful singing voice the American Idol because they want to see him win and have a good laugh.

A world where millions are glued to their TV set to see if a California blonde bimbo will get 23 days or 45 days in jail for a misdemeanor and will keep tuning in while she is in jail to see if she ate. We love train wrecks and these near real time reported wrecks are the best.

I think this Brandi chick is great. Everyone who calls her a whore would line up and proudly wear the title of 'john'. She will NEVER run out of guys to wrap around her finger.

Sklanksy has just become embarassing -- something people like to see as well. Not at all for 'mentoring' her (hell, my gf is 20 years younger than me) but for these little posts he is dropping in here to keep the pot stirred. Total lack of class on his part and even if you want to argue traffic and ad revenue, a minimal return for his dignity, I would say.

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You may be an old fuddy-duddy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

At least for us American posters -- we live in a country where millions will gladly pay .95cents a text message over and over to help try and make someone who has a God-awful singing voice the American Idol because they want to see him win and have a good laugh.

A world where millions are glued to their TV set to see if a California blonde bimbo will get 23 days or 45 days in jail for a misdemeanor and will keep tuning in while she is in jail to see if she ate. We love train wrecks and these near real time reported wrecks are the best.

I think this Brandi chick is great. Everyone who calls her a whore would line up and proudly wear the title of 'john'. She will NEVER run out of guys to wrap around her finger.

Sklanksy has just become embarassing -- something people like to see as well. Not at all for 'mentoring' her (hell, my gf is 20 years younger than me) but for these little posts he is dropping in here to keep the pot stirred. Total lack of class on his part and even if you want to argue traffic and ad revenue, a minimal return for his dignity, I would say.

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Second time I have to follow your post with "QFT". Nicely said. I would in no way ever judge DS for having sex with Brandi and even paying for it. I am a fair bit younger than him, but I would certainly have some fun with her - my life leak is a weakness for dirty/trashy girls. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] BUT I would never allow myself to appear so pathetic to my peers and fans/customers/readers - I can undertand if your claim to fame was being a great pornographer, but if you are an author/intellectual/poker statesman, please don't get cheap publicity/few $$$ by associating yourself with this sort of stuff. It makes you look bad; because of your stature it makes poker look bad, and it makes me look bad (in a very small way) because I play poker too. Again, I am not a nit - I am all for hookers, kinky sex, etc., but this is just.... sad.