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No read on opponent, other than he is a bit short and probably not that great.

I am dealt AKcc in the co.
Effective stacks are 75$

My opponenent (1 to my right) raises to 3, I reraise to 8$ folds back to him and he calls.

 Everyone was folding to my 3 bets so I lowered the size, this is the most major mistake in the hand I believe.

Flop 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Pot: 17$
Check call a 7$ bet
 My thinking here is that the pot is gonna get big compared to his stack, I likely have the best hand and he is probably drawing mighty slim.

Turn 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Pot: 31$

He bets 15$ I call

 I am underreping my hand and still confident I am ahead, if I raise he wil prob shut down unless it is a chop, so I give him some more rope.

River 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Pot: 61$
He bets 30$, I raise him all in (like 20 more)

 He is commited with anything he raises with to call I think, and I am still confident I have the best hand so I get it in.

I rarely slowplay, but based on this board I felt that this was one of the time, like it?

I like it.

Rather than lower my 3bet, I prefer to widen my 3bet range.

Seems like a pretty good line to me and one I would take on occasion. Not sure on the river though, do you think he has air here on the river or possibly a weaker ace?

Did he flip 55 or something?

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A+

Again't a CO or something similar raise I will re-raise a lot of stuff 67s-9Ts KQs as well as normal premium hands and when deep all pp's. I hadn't really though about just raising more stuff and shutting out peoples implied odds. I will think about it some more, A though on that I play at mansion and so no PT. I will have to have a pretty good read before I make it light, cause it seems like people are very tight with raises pre.

I think my opponent could have qq-kk rarely there, aj-aq sometimes and a chop a good percentage of the time as well.

He had 33 for the straight if anyone is interested.

I think the turn is a fold

river fold>call>>>>push

getting 3-1?? I think we see AQ and AK here very often, and sometimes an aggro JJ-KK.

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getting 3-1?? I think we see AQ and AK here very often, and sometimes an aggro JJ-KK.

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I think fold and call are close on the river

I think pushing is really bad

3 bet 72off and show, that will get you some action. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I like the river call over push.

Think about it this way...you can put in $30 to win $91 or you put in $50 to win $111. How often would he need to bet a worse hand to make pushing > calling?

x($111) + (1-x)(-$50) > x($91) + (1-x)(-$30)
111x + 50x - 50 > 91x + 30x - 30
161x - 50 > 121x - 30
40x > 20
x > .50

If 50% of the time you are ahead, then you get the following EVs for each:

EVcall = .50($91) + .50(-$30) = $45.50 - $15 = +$30.50
EVpush = .50($111) + .50(-$50) = $55.50 - $25 = +$30.50

So without a clear read as an opponent being aggressive, this is a call not a push because not many opponents will bet marginal hands on the river, except in the low limits. Even then, you will lose money in the long run without a read.

So he needs to call at least 50% of the time on the river with a worse hand for a push to be correct? (self-obvious)

Anyway back to the turn, you really think this is a fold? Someone bets 1/2 pot into you on 2 streets and you fold TPTK?(specially since we underepped our hand) I really think we see worse aces, or AK here a lot of the time.

Here is my thinking on possible hands by the river:
22-55, these hands all have either a straight or a set. They are quite possible but pf makes them iffy.

99-KK, very opponent dependant, aggro opponent might try betting them both streets, but would usually check the river.

AJ-AK, Very possible, hands trying to get value the whole way with value bets on all streets.

Note: I didn't even include air here, as I would have noticed if Villian had done crazy stuff prior to this (I hope)
This was my thinking in general, I just felt that top pair type hands were the most likely hands(60-70%). And if we narrow it down to the river, The river will be bet by sets and straights all the time, and by AJ-AK most of the time. I don't really do hand distribution math, but basically

IF:(# of combination of 22-66) < (river bet frequency)(# of combination of (AK(most likely)+AQ(fairly likely)+AJ(rarely))

So if the above statement is true I shove, if its false I call(or fold if it is really small (less than 30:81).
Note: I assume that all hands that bet call a shove (20 into 111)

I haven't plugged numbers in, and I would like to say that after looking at hundreds of posts on 2p2 i've never done this much math/logic.

This post came off pretty snoty reading it over, but I'm no good with grammar. I would appreciate some thoughts on this, I don't usually go into this much detail.

I don't get why you think preflop makes the 22-55 iffy? the orig raise isn't uncommon really, and calling the RR is totally expected(maybe a little thin but don't expect a fold)

you mistyped the flop action, he bet you called no checking was involved, or he checked and you made a weak bet that sucks too which he called

I don't think to many live players will go bet bet into a PFR-reraiser with weaker Ax all that often

woops ya called a 7$ bet on the flop. It wasn't live, site with no HH's. Iffy cause the re-raise was 6.6% of his stack, which makes it prettty thin, I think most people fold this mainly because they are OOP.

I am calling this r/r all day w/ anything more than 60 behind for multiple reasons. The first is that with such a short stack I am likely to get you pot stuck w/ any decent hand if I do hit a set, thus it's more likely I get paid off when I do hit a set. I am also willing to take a bit less than 9/10-1 knowing I don't need a set every time to win the pot (applies more to in position but still applicable here). I also am calling it because it's less than 3x my initial raise and if you play a lot of hands (15/12-17/14 like I generally do) you can't fold to small reraises. It is marginally -ev this go round but long term it establishes small reraises won't stop me.

Also we need to decide the following. Either villian's bad and won't fold to the r/r thinking about being OOP and will not be likely to value bet AJ-AK hands all the way to the river, or villian is good despite sitting with a short(er) stack and will not call any raise on this river w/o AK beat. Obviously he could be any where in between these but it seems like we're trying to justify our mistakes here by using his skill level. He can't be good when it comes to folding 22-55 pf for a r/r due to position and be able to v-bet AJ-AK all the way but then we think he'll call w/o us beat on the river cuz he has $75 to start and is a donkey.