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onestepahead 06-02-2007 05:46 PM

Dangers of Dealing....
 
I am going to be dealing cards in a poker game in NY. I was wondering what can happen to me(fine/punishment) if the cops bust it? As much details as possible would be thankful.

onestepahead 06-02-2007 06:48 PM

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57 views and no help?

llleisure 06-02-2007 06:52 PM

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No idea about NY but I have friends that deal in underground rooms in TX so I can speak to that. Worst case, if the cops want to be a pain in the butt they can charge the dealers with gambling promotion which is a felony but more often the employees - dealers, wait staff, etc - only get a mistomeanor charge not the felony charge. The people actually running the game tend to get the gambling promotion charge. They DO tend to take all the employees to jail - the customers they tend to write tickets and let them go.

The lesser charge is a fine and ticket and MAY be the type of charge where if you ask for a trial they wind up dropping it anyway but you need to pay an attorney for that. And this is TX not NY.

onestepahead 06-02-2007 06:59 PM

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Thanks....anyone from NY that can help me out? I want to go to law school and become an attorney so I dont know how much this might hurt me.

Howard Beale 06-02-2007 07:00 PM

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76 views and no:

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Howard Beale 06-02-2007 07:05 PM

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Thanks....anyone from NY that can help me out? I want to go to law school and become an attorney so I dont know how much this might hurt me.

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THAT makes this serious. DO NOT, DO NOT, take the job. You will have nothing but grief from the character committee of the Bar Association if you get convicted of even a very minor offense. You may still get thru but you'll hate what's going to happen when it comes time to deal with them.

onestepahead 06-02-2007 08:12 PM

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Understood. I thought that many law students/ or med students involved with dealing weed and [censored] as well to make money for school.

I have heard that its a 500 dollar fine for each dealer and they jsut detain you for a bit. Is this true?

Howard Beale 06-02-2007 08:18 PM

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Understood. I thought that many law students/ or med students involved with dealing weed and [censored] as well to make money for school.

I have heard that its a 500 dollar fine for each dealer and they jsut detain you for a bit. Is this true?

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I have no idea. I DO know one of the managers of the old Mayfair Club who got picked up in a raid. That club didn't have dealers. She was a manager for a long time, made a good living, and I don't think she had much experience at anything else. Her arrest experience convinced her to do ANYTHING except get involved in another poker club.

IMO, if you've got law school in mind, you shouldn't take the chance.

Durs522 06-02-2007 08:36 PM

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Almost every time there is a raid the dealers are arrested. I know some that were arrested and the charges were later dropped, so you might get lucky and not actually have a record. I'm sure either way though if you want to be a lawyer this might not be a great idea. Some games have been going for years and there is very little risk of a raid. Other clubs open up for a few months and then get shut down. If you're working in a legit place it might be worth it for you, the money you can make dealing in some of these games is insane.

RJT 06-02-2007 10:58 PM

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Is this a game with rake or no rake? If the game is being raked and gets busted the cops will want you to roll on those operating the game? They can charge you with money laundering - big time felony charge. Regardless of the outcome, they will make your life miserable.

Brief hijack. My buddy who deals our home game just got indicted for dealing a game a few years ago that he wasn’t even at. They have him mixed up with a dealer with the same first name. He already spent 4 days in jail (waiting extradition to the nearby county) and has to come up with $3K retainer for his attorney.

FCBLComish 06-02-2007 11:21 PM

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I am going to be dealing cards in a poker game in NY. I was wondering what can happen to me(fine/punishment) if the cops bust it? As much details as possible would be thankful.

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I would strongly advise against it if you ever think you may be applying for a legitimate gaming license in the future... It will stick to you like forever!

psandman 06-02-2007 11:48 PM

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he offense they would most like be charged with promoting gambling activity in the 2nd degree which is a Class A Misdemeanor which is punishable by up to a year in jail.f cousre there are other charges which could be added on, but that is the primary charge.

*TT* 06-03-2007 12:52 AM

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Understood. I thought that many law students/ or med students involved with dealing weed and [censored] as well to make money for school.

I have heard that its a 500 dollar fine for each dealer and they jsut detain you for a bit. Is this true?

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Some employees have been charged. Some charges have been dropped. Everyone has a record. You must not care about your career choice if you want to do this.

Paul Levy 06-03-2007 06:52 AM

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Understood. I thought that many law students/ or med students involved with dealing weed and [censored] as well to make money for school.

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Many Law and Med students deal weed? The world is much more phucked up than I thought.

onestepahead 06-03-2007 02:57 PM

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Thanks for all the advice. The place im going to be dealing at is at a house in a real quiet neighborhood( not in the city) and the clientel are kids 18-23. The shift is max 8 hours, and pays at least 100 bucks a night.

This is only until I can get a paralegal/legal assistant job.

SheridanCat 06-03-2007 10:56 PM

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Thanks for all the advice. The place im going to be dealing at is at a house in a real quiet neighborhood( not in the city) and the clientel are kids 18-23. The shift is max 8 hours, and pays at least 100 bucks a night.

This is only until I can get a paralegal/legal assistant job.

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You ask for advice. You get very good advice. You don't like advice. You ignore advice. Why did you ask?

Poshua 06-03-2007 11:02 PM

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the clientel are kids 18-23.

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Sounds like a customer base that would be tight-lipped about the club's existence and location.

punkass 06-03-2007 11:36 PM

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You are gambling with your future. And if this place has alcohol while the teens are there when you get busted, good luck.

sirtimo 06-03-2007 11:47 PM

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The shift is max 8 hours, and pays at least 100 bucks a night.

This is only until I can get a paralegal/legal assistant job.

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go get a job at Dominos delivering pizzas. same money, legal, safer...blah blah

Photoc 06-04-2007 04:05 AM

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57 views and no help?

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My only thought when I opened this thread is you were going to be listing the dangers.

A simple restructing or the subject would probably have gotten replies quicker than a mere 57 views. Something along the lines of..."What are the dangers of dealing underground games?" or something to that effect. The ... lead me to believe you were going to follow it up with a listing.

*TT* 06-04-2007 04:14 AM

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Thanks for all the advice. The place im going to be dealing at is at a house in a real quiet neighborhood( not in the city) and the clientel are kids 18-23. The shift is max 8 hours, and pays at least 100 bucks a night.

This is only until I can get a paralegal/legal assistant job.

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You ask for advice. You get very good advice. You don't like advice. You ignore advice. Why did you ask?

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After some thought, I think this should have been the last post in this thread (it was a good one) - my bad for not locking the thread sooner. The OP can figure it out on his own when he sits in Toombs over the weekend (there is a reason why the busts are on thurs - saturday nights), as he ponders the future of his career and the damage hey may have caused. He obviously already made his decision, so lets call it a day.


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