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06-01-2007 09:33 AM

ESPN Enhances WSOP Coverage
 
Full article on cardplayer.com:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/8950

Basically, to summarize, the planned enhancements include:

- Increase from 26 to 40 cameras for better coverage
- Plan to broadcast in HD for the first time
- 32 one-hour episodes in total (10 bracelet events, 16 Main Event episodes, and 6 $50K HORSE episodes... in that order)
- Player chip counts during hands (Thank the Lord!!)
- Some sort of new 3-D graphic that displays holecards, community cards, and players' actions

gobboboy 06-01-2007 11:40 AM

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Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.

21SuicideKing21 06-01-2007 11:47 AM

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Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
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Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.

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kylephilly 06-01-2007 01:34 PM

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Norman is like EricW, he's so bad he's good

Slim Pickens 06-01-2007 01:44 PM

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- Some sort of new 3-D graphic that displays holecards, community cards, and players' actions

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Hopefully they'll put this up (minus hold cards of course) for the spectators in real time. The overhead cam on the board was a good improvement last year and adding some chip stacks and action might make live poker marginally watchable.

lwlee 06-01-2007 02:00 PM

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Norman Chad and Lon McEachern rock. Enuf said.

gettym 06-01-2007 02:24 PM

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Norman is like Bill Walton, he's so bad he's good

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FYP

06-01-2007 02:36 PM

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Jesus, am I only one who throroughly enjoys the WSOP commentating?

RichGangi 06-01-2007 02:40 PM

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Jesus, am I only one who throroughly enjoys the WSOP commentating?

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]Youre leveling, right?

06-01-2007 02:57 PM

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Jesus, am I only one who throroughly enjoys the WSOP commentating?

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]Youre leveling, right?

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Swear I'm not. I enjoy it for the same reason I enjoy reading Bluff magazine. It's not the most intelligent commentary in the world from a poker perspective, but it's fun and goes well with the broadcast. I don't know, I guess I stand alone here.

TimTimSalabim 06-01-2007 02:58 PM

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- Plan to broadcast in HD for the first time

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This is scary.

SimonBarSinister 06-01-2007 03:04 PM

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Who doesn't love "Helmuth needs a King and King only or he is WHAMBOOZLED"

06-01-2007 03:10 PM

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- Plan to broadcast in HD for the first time

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This is scary.

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I can't imagine why...

http://www.blindbetpoker.com/img/wso...hy-Liebert.jpg

SimonBarSinister 06-01-2007 03:21 PM

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You owe me a new chair you prick, upon seeing that picture the horror was so intense I jumped back from the screen so violently I snapped the chair off its base. Wow that is one scary dude!! Brrrrrrr.....

NicksDad1970 06-01-2007 03:24 PM

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Norman is pretty funny at times. I think for the average viewer Norman is one of the major highlights.

BigRed1 06-01-2007 03:39 PM

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Jesus, am I only one who throroughly enjoys the WSOP commentating?

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I enjoy it also.....It could be worse.

I hope people didn't think the PPT was better?

Professionalpoker 06-01-2007 04:08 PM

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That picture needs to be banned!

SuperUberBob 06-01-2007 04:36 PM

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The commentary isn't too bad. There's much worse out there.

pyedog 06-01-2007 04:36 PM

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Jesus, am I only one who throroughly enjoys the WSOP commentating?

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I also enjoy the WSOP commentating. They do a good job making entertaining comments and I don't expect to learn anything from the advice. But that's fine because most of the hands that they televise are crapshoot situations.

I would prefer listening to Greenstein commentate on Cash Poker, but for JJ vs AK all in preflop for 12 BBs I think the WSOP guys do a good job. I find WSOP episodes a lot more entertaining than WPT final tables too. The WPT commentary is more annoying.

Jeff76 06-01-2007 04:54 PM

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I don't know, I guess I stand alone here.

[/ QUOTE ]Nope- I like their commentary as well. It's fun enough to entertain and low enough in content that it never bother me.

Besides, I can't hear stuff like "he has the best hand he should go all in", "I hate going all in on a draw", and "he's only on a draw, but he has enough chips to make the call" enough.

Anamul 06-01-2007 08:12 PM

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Norm & Lon ROCK my World!!!!

Paraphrasing

Norm "What's an oxymoron Lon"
Lon "It's like an insiteful Colour Commentator Norm!!"

Sense1ess 06-01-2007 08:38 PM

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Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.
Please let Norman Chad be killed.

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Kimbell175113 06-01-2007 09:50 PM

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I like Norman Chad a lot, but really, Gabe Kaplan does the same thing WAY better.

The Bandit Fish 06-01-2007 09:54 PM

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I like Norman Chad a lot, but really, Gabe Kaplan does the same thing WAY better.

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Gabe + Norm + Lon == genius?

MikeRice 06-01-2007 11:15 PM

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- Plan to broadcast in HD for the first time

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This is scary.

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Please no Magrel, Hellmuth, Men Nyugen or any other players with disturbing moles and unpleasant features at final tables. HD poker is just disturbing.

JJBuffone 06-02-2007 01:19 AM

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I wouldn't mind seeing Gabe and Norman Chad together in the booth. Then again maybe that would be a little too silly.

okterrific 06-02-2007 01:28 AM

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off topic but im glad they changed this a bit. (sorry if already posted)

http://www.cardplayer.com

Fri Jun 01 19:14:00 PDT 2007 update

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Along with the many changes from previous years, the 2007 World Series of Poker is now adopting a much more lenient policy regarding the infamous 'F-bomb.' In years past, the 'F-bomb' has had disastrous consequences for many players, often resulting in a ten minute penalty in which the player's chips are blinded off. This year's policy is much more player friendly, with penalties only administered if "malicious intent" can be established. Directing an 'F-bomb' at another player or the dealer will result in a penalty, but use of the word is no longer strictly off limits. This change is felt to be necessary by many of the players, most notably Matusow.


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MikeMcQ1 06-02-2007 04:11 PM

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- Some sort of new 3-D graphic that displays holecards, community cards, and players' actions

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Hopefully they'll put this up (minus hold cards of course) for the spectators in real time. The overhead cam on the board was a good improvement last year and adding some chip stacks and action might make live poker marginally watchable.

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Chip stacks alone will make the coverage 1000% better. I doubt the "new 3-D graphic" will be implemented live, but rather in post production. It is, however, possible and not that difficult. It's basically the same technology as the First-and-Ten line in football. But getting instant "live" data on chip stacks and cards would require some sort of electronic identification of the objects (chips/cards) relayed to the graphics hardware. ESPN's billiards utilizes it, almost all racing coverage utilizes it via transponders, etc. It's probably not too far off though.

chicken10der 06-02-2007 08:38 PM

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If the chip stacks are a list of 5 people's names and their stack sizes that shows up on the screen for 1.5 seconds before a hand is shown then disappears (like the USPC coverage), it won't help much. I hope that's not the case, but I see it could happen.

jah7_fsu1 06-02-2007 11:28 PM

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Actually I think Norman Chad is pretty damn popular to the average viewer. I know my friends complained when I watched TV poker a lot because of the boring ass commentary on everything but ESPN coverage. He might not ever say anything really groundbreaking strategy wise, but he is entertaining.

RFKFREAK 06-03-2007 12:40 AM

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I would much rather see Lon and Gabe Kaplan working together as I can't stand Norm.

todd1007 06-03-2007 03:16 AM

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wtf??? mccarron is the weakest link here...he is a clown amosngst clowns...put kaplan and chad or kaplan and tuchman but for the love of GOD... kill LON

olivert 06-03-2007 07:19 AM

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The "TV arena" area at the 2007 WSOP has definitely been improved from last year:

1. 3 banks of stadium-style jump seats now surround the arena, replacing the awful metal bleachers from the past.

2. There is an overhead arena-style "jumbotron" with bright flat-panel video displays on all four sides, replacing the white cloth screen and video projector from the past.

3. There is also a "beer lounge" perched on one side of the arena, allowing spectators to have a bird's eye view of the TV final table.

We will get a chance to see the TV arena in use for the first time on Sunday.

olivert 06-03-2007 07:24 AM

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Actually I think Norman Chad is pretty damn popular to the average viewer. I know my friends complained when I watched TV poker a lot because of the boring ass commentary on everything but ESPN coverage. He might not ever say anything really groundbreaking strategy wise, but he is entertaining.

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Exactly.

Norman Chad uses an "acerbic" style (a la MSNBC's Keith Olbermann), taking "smart a--" shots at players who deserve to be shot at for the way they look (i.e. unshaven players), the way they dress, or the way they conduct themselves (i.e. rule or etiquette violations at the table.)

ESPN is going after 1.0-1.5 million U.S. TV viewers per show, not 350,000 viewers per show (i.e. GSN's High Stakes Poker). Some of you guys who want every show to look and sound like HSP will disagree with the way ESPN does the WSOP and will disagree with me, but I understand your point of view.

pacino 06-03-2007 05:35 PM

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That's not Norman Chad poker right there.

MikeRice 06-04-2007 10:49 PM

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Lon is a "pro" announcer. You need a straight face man and a color guy. The guy does everything watch any fringe show on ESPN and he'll be there. K-1 kickboxing, Bodog fight, gymnastics hell I stumbled across a scrable championship and there was Lon. He's seemingly clueless about every show though I don't even know the rules to scrabble.

EC10 06-04-2007 11:16 PM

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i'd take norman chad and lon over gabe kaplan and AJ benza any [censored] day. benza is just retarded, and kaplan never shuts the [censored] up whether he's telling a terrible joke, saying how he would have played the hand (guess what no one cares), or just talking for the sake of it

dlorc 06-05-2007 01:37 PM

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Norman Chad needs to jump off a cliff.

Anyone who finds him remotely amusing after 5 minutes of his lame jokes that are told better by 10 year olds has serious problems.

dfkdfk 06-05-2007 03:36 PM

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I enjoy the WSOP commentary especially Norman Chad... I'm looking forward to the additional coverage of this years WSOP. The 50k horse event should be interesting.

MicroBob 06-07-2007 01:33 AM

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- Some sort of new 3-D graphic that displays holecards, community cards, and players' actions

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Hopefully they'll put this up (minus hold cards of course) for the spectators in real time. The overhead cam on the board was a good improvement last year and adding some chip stacks and action might make live poker marginally watchable.

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I wouldn't count on this.
Tacking on some graphics for board-cards and chip-counts in the edited version that airs later on ESPN is one thing.

Having somebody there trying to do it live just for the screen is an extra person and is probably not worth the effort for them imo.

Maybe it's easier to do this than I think. But somehow it strikes me as being pretty complicated and overly cumbersome to do something like this live for the whole final-table.


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