kobe wants out
 

kobe wants out

would the lakers seriously consider trading him? they'd probably glue his hands to the ball to make him play...no way they would trade him.

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Does he have any opt out clauses coming up in the near future?

Seems easy to make a trade for a player to make him happy- JOneal, KG, etc..cept Buss seems unwilling to trade Odom or that young kid.

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There's zero chance he ever gets traded. The guy is a cash cow.

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Don't be silly.

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Does he have any opt out clauses coming up in the near future?


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after the 08-09 season.

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You mean the rumors of Vince Carter coming to the Knicks don't excite you?

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There's zero chance he ever gets traded. The guy is a cash cow.

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He still has 4 years left at about 19.5 M per year, so yes matching up the contract would be difficult, but there are definitely teams willing to take that on for Kobe.

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Does he have any opt out clauses coming up in the near future?

Seems easy to make a trade for a player to make him happy- JOneal, KG, etc..cept Buss seems unwilling to trade Odom or that young kid.

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Problem is that no one wants to trade a guy like KG or O'Neal for Odom, and if Bynum is part of the deal, it becomes difficult to match salaries b/c Bynum is on a rookie contract. The Lakers are pretty much stuck...

Unless they deal Kobe, which as a long-time Laker fan, I hope they do. As long as Kobe is in purple and gold, the Lakers will not win another title, period. Aside from his selfish play hurting the team on the court, his MO of throwing everyone under the bus (Shaq, Kupchack, Buss, Malone, his current teammates) makes it so no star player would ever want to play with him. This is probably as good a supporting cast as he'll ever see again in LA, and that's not saying much.

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I meant he's a money making machine for them. He keeps peoples asses in the Staple Center. Who could they shop him for where they're not getting 75 cents to the dollar or worse? And whoever that is, how awful will the Lakers be?

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I meant he's a money making machine for them. He keeps peoples asses in the Staple Center. Who could they shop him for where they're not getting 75 cents to the dollar or worse? And whoever that is, how awful will the Lakers be?

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they still have kwame brown

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Good Kobe Interview Linked in TrueHoop

-Al

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even tho it would be pretty awesome if kobe went to the knicks, i'm sure the lakers would love to take steve francis, jerome james, and jared jeffries in return.

why are the knicks pursuing VC? Horrible.

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somebody call Kobe a whaaaaaambulance

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I'd like to see Kobe and Curry.

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I think I dislike Kobe more than any other athlete, except maybe Roger Clemens. He is such a bitch.

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Sucks that Stephen A is the guy who got to do this interview.

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How is it that pro athletes have zero concept of irony? I mean Kobe runs Shaq/guaranteed more titles out of town so he can be Batman, now he wants out to win more titles?

It was like TO complaining about someone talking bad about him in the press. Hello?

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Sucks that Stephen A is the guy who got to do this interview.

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Why is that? I thought the interview was done very well.

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How is it that pro athletes have zero concept of irony? I mean Kobe runs Shaq/guaranteed more titles out of town so he can be Batman, now he wants out to win more titles?

It was like TO complaining about someone talking bad about him in the press. Hello?

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The whole controversy is that Kobe was not the one who ran Shaq out of town.

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Because Stephen A is awful, so when gets credible stuff like this and the T-Mac interview, he gets to stick around.

Drew,

So you basically thing Kobe is lying in that interview?
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"Sure, Shaq and I had our issues," Bryant told Smith. "So what! We always did and we won three titles. That doesn't change what was told to me. It doesn't change the fact I never, ever, said to get rid of him."

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kc, of course he doesn't think Kobe was lying, he spoke without reading/listening.

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That's just what I had read about the deal.

So if Kobe didn't do this, why did they get rid of Shaq? How did it go down?

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Read the article.

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this could end up being 1 of the best off seasons as far as trading players is concerned in recent history. I am exited to see what happens now.

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Reading comprehension is underrated imo.

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Drew,

Just read the damn thing. Basically Buss didn't want to pay Shaq that kind of money because he thought he was over the hill. To be honest I can't entirely blame him for that, though the trade he made was retarded.

all,
Now I'm not going to do any work all day and play on the trade machine

I just swapped Kobe and Vlad Radmanovich to the Celtics for Telfair, West, Wally, Ratliff, Gerald Green, and Tony Allen. That'd be fun (and likely a total trainwreck).

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Cross posted from BBV4L

Sorry but the ESPN article is BS. There is no doubt in my mind that he wanted Shaq out. If he wanted them to keep Shaq then why did he wait till the day after the trade to resign. Kobe is a narcissistic prick who was jealous of Shaq for getting all the credit. He was so full of himself he thought he could win a championship without Shaq. He really thinks he is Jordan. The sad thing is he might be able to be Jordan if only he wasn't so selfish. He is only coming forward against the statement now because 3 years later Shaq has a title and he barely has 2 playoff appearances.

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Sucks that Stephen A is the guy who got to do this interview.

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IF STEPHEN A POSTED ON THIS SITE ALL OF HIS POSTS WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS!!!!!11111111111111

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Just being lazy. Okay, read the article. That sure makes Buss look like an idiot.

As a Rockets fan, I'd be happy to offer up T-Mac right now...

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So Kobe has been fine with the perception that he ran Shaq out of town for all this time, and just now wants it to be known that he had nothing to do with it?

I have a really hard time believing this

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Shaq only had one good year left in him anyway. GG Buss.

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would the Lakers consider trading him to Portland/Seattle for their upcoming pick + bloated salaries? I know the Blazers have a couple worthless large expiring contract guys, what about Seattle?

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So Kobe has been fine with the perception that he ran Shaq out of town for all this time, and just now wants it to be known that he had nothing to do with it?

I have a really hard time believing this

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Now that he's asked to be traded he doesn't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes in the Lakers organization.

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mason,

Kobe not talking about his convo with Buss isn't the same as him lending truth to the speculation that he made an ultimatum through silence. I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe wanted Shaq out and him "never saying to get rid of him" is sort of a technicality. There's a ton of back room stuff we'll probably never know about.

Either way this offseason just got interesting. He'll be a megavillian in LA if/when he gets traded.

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Cross posted from BBV4L

Sorry but the ESPN article is BS. There is no doubt in my mind that he wanted Shaq out. If he wanted them to keep Shaq then why did he wait till the day after the trade to resign. Kobe is a narcissistic prick who was jealous of Shaq for getting all the credit. He was so full of himself he thought he could win a championship without Shaq. He really thinks he is Jordan. The sad thing is he might be able to be Jordan if only he wasn't so selfish. He is only coming forward against the statement now because 3 years later Shaq has a title and he barely has 2 playoff appearances.

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Well, as long as you're sure, ok.

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would the Lakers consider trading him to Portland/Seattle for their upcoming pick + bloated salaries? I know the Blazers have a couple worthless large expiring contract guys, what about Seattle?

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This is what came to mind for me? Any knowledgeable NBA fans out there?

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Even if Kobe never came out and told the organization that he wanted Shaq out of town, doesn't it seem probable that the organization did it to assuade Kobe and give him more reason to re-sign? Would Kobe have re-signed that summer if Shaq was still on the team?

I'm an admitted Kobe-hater, so my opinion here is very biased. But I really picture Kobe as the delusional type who can lie through his teeth and believe his own BS.

Seriously, what a freaking baby this guy is. He wants to be traded, and there's nothing the Lakers can do to change his mind? I say let him rot in LA

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would the Lakers consider trading him to Portland/Seattle for their upcoming pick + bloated salaries? I know the Blazers have a couple worthless large expiring contract guys, what about Seattle?

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Seattle might be willing to do this, I dont think Portland does. I think Seattle is probably a better fit for what that trade would amount to than Oden anyways. I think its very doubtful that either of these happen though.

Kobe to be on Dan Patrick show within the hour
 

Here is a link to ESPN radio.

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What could the Knicks possibly trade for him?

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Cross posted from BBV4L

Sorry but the ESPN article is BS. There is no doubt in my mind that he wanted Shaq out. If he wanted them to keep Shaq then why did he wait till the day after the trade to resign. Kobe is a narcissistic prick who was jealous of Shaq for getting all the credit. He was so full of himself he thought he could win a championship without Shaq. He really thinks he is Jordan. The sad thing is he might be able to be Jordan if only he wasn't so selfish. He is only coming forward against the statement now because 3 years later Shaq has a title and he barely has 2 playoff appearances.

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Well, as long as you're sure, ok.

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If you listen to the 570 KLAC interview I linked above, Kobe sounds pretty honest and upfront about the whole Shaq thing, and Buss in general. (It's a very in-depth interview.) FWIW I am not a fan.

-Al