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Mucked1st 05-22-2007 03:54 AM

Omaha Poker Coach
 
OMAHA POKER COACH is a useful tool for playing Omaha online.

http://www.muckedhands.com/omaha/userguide/6.jpg

Thanks to its auto-read function, OPC can follow your play automatically, instantly offering outs, odds and recommendations for your next actions, thus giving you a clear edge in the extremely fast online play.
This calculator is a must for any player of Omaha, either Hi or Hi/Lo. It is also a valuable help for whoever is interested in learning the basics, the rules and the strategies of Omaha Poker.
Now available for 24hnetwork sites soon we will add stars fulltilt and partypoker autoread
Feel free to try it also in manual input
The software and guide is
Here
username: 2+2
password: free10days

any comments are welcome [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

luckyjimm 05-22-2007 06:04 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Got an error message when I tried to run it:

"Component MSINET.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid."

Mucked1st 05-26-2007 04:52 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
lucky, do u use windows xp or vista?

normally the soft under xp register correctly the ocx in use but you can also register manually them
go to start>Run and type
regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\MSINET.OCX
regsvr32 MSINET.OCX

Hope this was helpful

sfgiants 05-30-2007 07:38 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Ok, downloaded it, had some random error messages at first but after downloading 1.07 it seems to work.

First thing I notice is that Zonealarm tells me the program is trying to connect to the Internet which is a bit disconcerting as who knows the software may have a keylogger/screengrabber and be sending my holecards to an unscrupulous individual. Not accusing you of anything, but I would be unlikely to use the program in the future if it needs to connect to the Internet to run.

The program itself has much potential but as of now I'm not finding it overly useful. The "other player" percentages doesn't really help out much because if I'm understanding correctly the percentages are just for a random hand. Obviously, Omaha/8 players are more likely to be playing hands like A2xx and A3xx as opposed to 37J5 and similar junk. But the program doesn't make that distinction so the numbers can be misleading.

Something more useful would be expanding the outs feature of the program. For instance, the program could indicate exactly WHICH cards are outs. ie. you hold 79TJ on a Q86 flop. The program could have an output such as:
5 (four outs)
7 (3 outs)
9 (3 outs)
T (3 outs)
J(3 outs)
Total Outs: 16

It's pretty easy to misread wrap outs to a straight on o8, especially when multi-tabling so I think something like this would be a tremendous addition.

1 minor thing: There are two entries for the program in the add/remove program area (this is probably because I upgraded)

Hope that provides you with some helpful feedback, I look forward to seeing your program evolve and improve in the future!

IQUITyestarday 05-30-2007 07:55 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
You never going to learn how to play live with that [censored]. Like using rollarblades to practice hockey skating. Wanna be "burped" through life?


[ QUOTE ]
OMAHA POKER COACH is a useful tool for playing Omaha online.

http://www.muckedhands.com/omaha/userguide/6.jpg

Thanks to its auto-read function, OPC can follow your play automatically, instantly offering outs, odds and recommendations for your next actions, thus giving you a clear edge in the extremely fast online play.
This calculator is a must for any player of Omaha, either Hi or Hi/Lo. It is also a valuable help for whoever is interested in learning the basics, the rules and the strategies of Omaha Poker.
Now available for 24hnetwork sites soon we will add stars fulltilt and partypoker autoread
Feel free to try it also in manual input
The software and guide is
Here
username: 2+2
password: free10days

any comments are welcome [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

luckyjimm 05-31-2007 05:53 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
lucky, do u use windows xp or vista?

normally the soft under xp register correctly the ocx in use but you can also register manually them
go to start>Run and type
regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\MSINET.OCX
regsvr32 MSINET.OCX

Hope this was helpful

[/ QUOTE ]


Vista...

sutand 06-03-2007 08:02 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
did anyone test this program? isit useful?

Mucked1st 06-05-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]


First thing I notice is that Zonealarm tells me the program is trying to connect to the Internet which is a bit disconcerting as who knows the software may have a keylogger/screengrabber and be sending my holecards to an unscrupulous individual. Not accusing you of anything, but I would be unlikely to use the program in the future if it needs to connect to the Internet to run.

The program itself has much potential but as of now I'm not finding it overly useful. The "other player" percentages doesn't really help out much because if I'm understanding correctly the percentages are just for a random hand. Obviously, Omaha/8 players are more likely to be playing hands like A2xx and A3xx as opposed to 37J5 and similar junk. But the program doesn't make that distinction so the numbers can be misleading.

Something more useful would be expanding the outs feature of the program. For instance, the program could indicate exactly WHICH cards are outs. ie. you hold 79TJ on a Q86 flop. The program could have an output such as:
5 (four outs)
7 (3 outs)
9 (3 outs)
T (3 outs)
J(3 outs)
Total Outs: 16

It's pretty easy to misread wrap outs to a straight on o8, especially when multi-tabling so I think something like this would be a tremendous addition.

1 minor thing: There are two entries for the program in the add/remove program area (this is probably because I upgraded)

Hope that provides you with some helpful feedback, I look forward to seeing your program evolve and improve in the future!

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Tx for reply and feedback, i am very happy of it
First af all i want to say this software will be
on cardplayer site soon (not main cardplayer.com but a
cardplayer site of my State) and it MUST be a TRUSTED software, for this i had software expert overview before publishing it.
In order to protect it the only method i had was the internet protecting method that is able to control randomly during the run of the software and validate licence connecting to our servers.
During the past my normal method of software protection were
bypassed but this is better, the other good software protection
was the hardware key but this is not possible in this case
I will look for the upgrades you request, i also want to calculate the nuts at each stage and my outs to have a hand better than mine at each stage.
I also want to insert other pre flop method rather than hutchinson system.
By the way version 1.08 is out and is able to autoread fulltilt CLASSIC WITH AVATARS tables with AUTO CENTER option active.
This is the link of a video of it
VIDEO FULL TILT
tanks to all

any comments /suggestion is welcome

Mucked1st 06-05-2007 10:30 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
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Vista...

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i supposed it, try to register manually the ocx like i said before
tx for reeply

Mucked1st 06-05-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
You never going to learn how to play live with that [censored]. Like using rollarblades to practice hockey skating. Wanna be "burped" through life?

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sorry you didn't like it, i posted it also to have suggestion and idea to insert into the software, think hutchinson is a good way to select starting hands , any of you have other valid systems?

wrschultz 06-06-2007 03:17 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
I don't think pokersites will allow people to use this software for very long. I'm sure it's a great tool, but I don't think it has a long life expectancy..

Mucked1st 06-06-2007 11:22 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
why did you say this? it's a calculator not a bot....

jii 06-06-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
why did you say this? it's a calculator not a bot....

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My guess is that poker rooms draw the line somewhere between HUD and tools that count odds... Your software is on the wrong side.

SparkMan 06-06-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't think pokersites will allow people to use this software for very long. I'm sure it's a great tool, but I don't think it has a long life expectancy..

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I think this would definitely fit under Stars banned software because of it making decisions for the player.
Its OK to provide all the stats and info but can't make decisions for the player.

Mucked1st 06-07-2007 03:17 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Omaha poker coach only passively
watches your game, calculating odds and advice.
It does not play Omaha for you, and therefore
does not violate the rules or
policies of any online Omaha poker room.

This tool will give you poker odds.
It does not use any information you don't already have.
It does not read anyone else's cards,
and does not share information with your opponents.
It only makes calculated guesses.

_Towelie_ 06-07-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think this would definitely fit under Stars banned software because of it making decisions for the player.
Its OK to provide all the stats and info but can't make decisions for the player.

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Are you sure about this? What about that real time ev calculator for stars sngs? That all but tells you whether you should push or fold your hand in real time, and they seem to be ok w/ that.

sebumd 06-07-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
it doesn't seem to be working for me...it won't read the hands, maybe due to new update? (full tilt)

Mucked1st 06-07-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
did u use auto center option on (into FT option)?
did u use CLASSIC with avatars Table viiew?
did u have XP?
tx

tangerine 06-08-2007 02:14 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
please help~

i tried 1.08 (latest)

omaha hi

my hand: Kd Kc 4s 3s

Board: Ks Js 8d 9c

the tool showed outs = 17
flush 13% full house 11% 4 of a kind 10% (no of players set to 2) would like to know how these being calculated, from set to quad 10% seems weird with one card to come. may i know where have i missed?

my own calculation i have 9 outs to full house (three J, three 8 and three 9)
1 out to four of a kind (one more king)
9 outs to flush (9 other spades)

so i should have total 19 outs instead of 17 as shown?
which two outs have been discounted and why?

thanks

jukofyork 06-08-2007 02:51 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
please help~

i tried 1.08 (latest)

omaha hi

my hand: Kd Kc 4s 3s

Board: Ks Js 8d 9c

the tool showed outs = 17
flush 13% full house 11% 4 of a kind 10% (no of players set to 2) would like to know how these being calculated, from set to quad 10% seems weird with one card to come. may i know where have i missed?

my own calculation i have 9 outs to full house (three J, three 8 and three 9)
1 out to four of a kind (one more king)
9 outs to flush (9 other spades)

so i should have total 19 outs instead of 17 as shown?
which two outs have been discounted and why?

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Only have 7 outs to the flush as 8s and 9s give you the (higher ranking) full house.

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

tangerine 06-08-2007 03:16 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] thanks

Mucked1st 06-08-2007 04:12 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Very good jukofyork ! hope you are able to make this calculation on the fly during play [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
For the rest i will fix it tx all! [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

By the way: recent upgrade of Ft didn't affect card coordinates so it is ok for autoread:
-Table view: CLASSIC WITH AVATARS
- OPTION > AUTO CENTER ON

Next autoread: party poker - stars (to be done) afrer it it will be published on cardplayer italian site
actual autoread : all 24hnetwork - FT (CLASSIC WITH AVATARS-AUTO CENTER ON)

Mucked1st 06-08-2007 04:58 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
I had some idea to insert into this software:
-The outs to obtain a hand stronger than actual hand
es. i have a straight and have 9 outs for flush, 4 for full house, etc.
-actual nuts at each stage

any other idea ?

tangerine 06-08-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
i actually have another question in my prev thread....

i tried 1.08 (latest)

omaha hi

my hand: Kd Kc 4s 3s

Board: Ks Js 8d 9c

the tool showed outs = 17

flush 13% full house 11% 4 of a kind 10% (no of players set to 2) would like to know how these being calculated, from set to quad 10% seems weird with one card to come. may i know where have i missed? and how opp's % being calculated?

thanks

tangerine 06-08-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
that would be very good
nut at each stage is good [for low(if there is) and high]

Mucked1st 06-09-2007 03:25 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Partypoker autoread beta test period
http://www.muckedhands.com/partyomaha.jpg

faststeady 06-09-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
so when will it be avail for party?

Mucked1st 06-09-2007 04:39 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
so when will it be avail for party?

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for 10 players table download version 1.10 now! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

faststeady 06-09-2007 08:31 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
i downloaded but on the "supported sites page it does not have party yet
cheers mucked
fast

Mucked1st 06-10-2007 01:57 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
i downloaded but on the "supported sites page it does not have party yet
cheers mucked
fast

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had to update internet userguide, but this is a screen of version 1.10

http://www.muckedhands.com/supported.jpg

Mucked1st 06-14-2007 06:41 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
added Pokerstars 6 Max table Autoread (soon 9 max table)
have a nice day! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
http://www.muckedhands.com/STARSomaha.jpg

A.Nironen 06-14-2007 06:57 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Will autoread work if I change card images?

Mucked1st 06-14-2007 07:00 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Now it is working with that deck , in near future i will add also 4 color deck
Table6 Max, Options: animation off

fuzzylogic 06-14-2007 01:42 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
I have some problems using this on party poker. When it's full table, and I use autoread-> then I select the table I want, but it gives only 6 seats to choose from instead of 10.

Otherwise I think this software is (or will be) awesome and very helpful tool to use when playing. Thanks!

Mucked1st 06-14-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
version 1.12 fixed this problem, please download and install it
Tx

Miwala 06-15-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
Hmmm, the idea is good but im having a lot of problems getting this to work...

Im running Vista Premium, and cant get the autoread to work on neither Party or Fulltilt... On party it doesnt capture the cards even though i followed the correct settings... The problem could be that i havent changed the theme to a XP theme but i cant find a possible way to do this i Vista... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

On full tilt it says something like this. "Mucked Hands cant read the table. Closed it and start it up again and do not resize it"

The above is taken from memory because i am not at my own computer at the moment, but again i had the right settings (classic with avatars) and didnt resize the table. Just ran the table fresh from the full tilt installation... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Hope you have some advice to solve my problems...

Mika [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

tangerine 06-15-2007 09:25 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
failed to use it on pokerstar 6max
i tried animation off, and not 4 colors deck with omaha hi/lo pot limit game

anyone else has any problem?

Mucked1st 06-16-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
hi, did you use windows xp style?
http://www.muckedhands.com/xptheme.gif
did you choose right seat?
Did you put omaha poker coach window on left outside pokerstars window and keep the focus on pokerstars client (simply clicking on it)

tx for feedback

Mucked1st 06-16-2007 02:05 AM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hmmm, the idea is good but im having a lot of problems getting this to work...

Im running Vista Premium, and cant get the autoread to work on neither Party or Fulltilt... On party it doesnt capture the cards even though i followed the correct settings... The problem could be that i havent changed the theme to a XP theme but i cant find a possible way to do this i Vista... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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The problem is xp windows style
tx for feedback
In near future we will fix the problem for vista display options

tangerine 06-16-2007 07:06 PM

Re: Omaha Poker Coach
 
[ QUOTE ]
hi, did you use windows xp style?
http://www.muckedhands.com/xptheme.gif
did you choose right seat?
Did you put omaha poker coach window on left outside pokerstars window and keep the focus on pokerstars client (simply clicking on it)

tx for feedback

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i have done 2 and 3. so i have tried again by setting to windows xp style. still it could not work.
does resolution affect? i tried 1280*800 and 1280*768
or does my table size matter?

thanks in advance


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