Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

I watch a lot of the tables, but don't really pay that much attention to the game. For having a reputation as such a world class player, what does he do that makes him such -EV in all the big NL gameS?

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

"I watch a lot of the tables, but don't really pay that much attention to the game."

There is a strong chance you are a. retared and b. busto

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

No, neither is true, nor relevant to the question asked. So everyone who opens up a 200/400 table to watch great players are broke? Great logic.

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There is a strong chance you are a. retared

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Can anyone define the word "irony"?

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There is a strong chance you are a. retared

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Can anyone define the word "irony"?

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Ervin "Magic" Johnson contracts the HIV Virus, but it doesn't develop into AIDS. His nickname was "Magic" before he got the High-5. That's irony . . .

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

This is an interesting question OP, but DUCY?

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

I for one am puzzled by benyamines poor nl holdem game. He seems a little too loose but then again the game is extremely aggressive so he'll have to be I suppose. I think his main problem is that he plays the few players in the world who's better than him.

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I for one am puzzled by benyamines poor nl holdem game. He seems a little too loose but then again the game is extremely aggressive so he'll have to be I suppose. I think his main problem is that he plays the few players in the world who's better than him.

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Even good players with big rolls can punch above their weight

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

Why are you asking this about DB instead of a bigger name with bigger losses.

According to highstakes.nu, DB is not in the top 10 as a winner or loser at HSNL since the beginning of the year. Big names in top 10 losses are

Luigi66369 $-692.511,95
Gus Hansen $-499.018,90
Ram Vaswani $-445.324,50
Mike Matusow $-429.635,15

I guess you'd think PA is -EV at HSNL, too?

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

No, but every thread that mentions the HSNL games says "Oh well BENYAMINE is a MILLION in the hole. He should just play PLO". Is he really outskilled, running bad, playing poorly but I just read his reputation as a player isn't that great as a NL player and wondering why that is?

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

He is a great NL player who is maybe playing against the top 3 or 4 NL players in the world.

And who knows, maybe he plays him in their game so they in turn give him action in PLO, where he has a massive edge.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

For accuracy's sake, I believe magicpitch1, ballsrider, and
davidbenyamine1 are also accounts that DB used before he became a FT pro and was limited to 1 account.

He's down considerably in NLHE this year, but more than made up for it at PLO.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

Its the rake that kills him obv

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Why are you asking this about DB instead of a bigger name with bigger losses.

According to highstakes.nu, DB is not in the top 10 as a winner or loser at HSNL since the beginning of the year. Big names in top 10 losses are

Luigi66369 $-692.511,95
Gus Hansen $-499.018,90
Ram Vaswani $-445.324,50
Mike Matusow $-429.635,15

I guess you'd think PA is -EV at HSNL, too?

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Your post doesn't make any sense. He is specifically asking why a player with a (and I'm quoting him directly here) "world class reputation" is a loser in HSNL games. Gus and Matusow are legitimate fish at the nosebleed stakes. I don't know what people think of Ram, but while there may not be games forming around him, none of the top players would be complaining if he sat either.

As far as Antonius, the guy is up several million dollars in the past year+ across several games. If he has a leak, no one has spotted it.

Anyway I have no idea why DB's results are what they are. It's possible that his marathon sessions contribute to his poor showings. If he doesn't have that great a relative edge in NL vs the players he plays regularly AND he isn't playing fresh (while they are) this could make him -EV a lot of the time.

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Its the rake that kills him obv

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no. He made his second account to get rakeback

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

I'm curious as to what Benyamine's overall results at NL are since switching to his "David Benyamine" account.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

The reason for Antonious loss this year is that he is down alot in NL HU. He lost alot against IDreamofJenna and lost quite a bit today to Durrr even though he did come back to win most of it back.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

he prolly does it to bait peps in like yourself OP. He's up a ton on the year....spewing a little back to just to run them over in the future isn't a horrible horrible investment.

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Your post doesn't make any sense. He is specifically asking why a player with a (and I'm quoting him directly here) "world class reputation" is a loser in HSNL games.

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I beleive PA has at least as big a reputation as DB, but PA is down much more than DB this year.

PA is the 3rd biggest loser at NLHE on full-tilt so far this year, down $657.313,95 in over 12,000 hands (not even including the >$100,000 he lost today to Durrrr)

It seems people think PA is the greatest player in the world these days. So I was just wondering why OP chose to ask his question about DB instead of PA, when PA probably has the greater reputation and the bigger losses.

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As far as Antonius, the guy is up several million dollars in the past year+ across several games.

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But OP was talking about NLHE and not other games.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

> For having a reputation as such a world class player,
> what does he do that makes him such -EV in all the big NL
> gameS?

Here are a few reasons:

1) It's his 4th best game.
2) He's playing in the toughest NL games in the world.
3) He often plays super long sessions and multitables a lot of different types of games at once (i.e., he's not fresh and not focused).

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I beleive PA has at least as big a reputation as DB, but PA is down much more than DB this year.


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No he's not, the second biggest loser magicpitch1 was one of Benyamine's old accounts and he was also down on his davidbenyamine1 and ballsrider accounts, he's down about $1.5 million in total. Antonius was up over $630k at one point in 2007 but he's had a $1.25 million dollar downswing since then, he was one of the biggest winners late last year though.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

benyamine is goot at nl imo

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he used to win alot on prima too.

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benyamine is goot at nl imo

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yeah, but he's likely a losing player in many of the lineups he plays in

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

He plays well sometimes but other times he's just really spewy

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

So many answers and 95% did not understand OP's question.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

Being stuck close to 2 million in the past week can probably make you play a little off your best game.

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It looks like DB play less tables at the same time since his recent losses btw.

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I think NL holdem should dissapear as a game all together and make everyone play Omaha H/L [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

I dont watch these games but could this simply be a case of '..the 5th best player in the world but sitting with the best 4..' sort of situation??

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

Magic has full blood transfusions every few months. Nothing "magic" about it just rich. Now OJ's acquittal suit is magic that PacMan Jones is dying for.

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

wait...even the "best" nlh players in the world lose sometimes?

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

He just went blew 100k plus to genius

Full Tilt Poker Game #2486550152: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:40:32 ET - 2007/05/22
Seat 3: Genius28 ($52,498.50)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($97,532.80)
David Benyamine posts the small blind of $200
Genius28 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
David Benyamine raises to $1,200
Genius28 calls $800
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jh 8c]
Genius28 checks
David Benyamine bets $2,400
Genius28 raises to $6,800
David Benyamine raises to $14,000
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $25,555
David Benyamine raises to $37,110
Genius28 raises to $51,298.50, and is all in
David Benyamine calls $14,188.50
Genius28 shows [7d 9d]
David Benyamine shows [8h 8d]
*** TURN *** [Ts Jh 8c] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [Ts Jh 8c 4d] [5d]
Genius28 shows a straight, Jack high
David Benyamine shows three of a kind, Eights
Genius28 wins the pot ($104,996.50) with a straight, Jack high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $104,997 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ts Jh 8c 4d 5d]
Seat 3: Genius28 (big blind) showed [7d 9d] and won ($104,996.50) with a straight, Jack high
Seat 6: David Benyamine (small blind) showed [8h 8d] and lost with three of a kind, Eights

Full Tilt Poker Game #2486568264: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:42:57 ET - 2007/05/22
Seat 3: Genius28 ($103,196.50)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($46,834.30)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Genius28 raises to $1,200
David Benyamine calls $800
*** FLOP *** [4c Tc Kd]
David Benyamine checks
Genius28 bets $1,600
David Benyamine raises to $7,200
Genius28 raises to $20,900
David Benyamine raises to $45,634.30, and is all in
Genius28 calls $24,734.30
David Benyamine shows [Ac 8c]
Genius28 shows [3c Kc]
*** TURN *** [4c Tc Kd] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [4c Tc Kd Kh] [Ah]
David Benyamine shows two pair, Aces and Kings
Genius28 shows three of a kind, Kings
Genius28 wins the pot ($93,668.10) with three of a kind, Kings
David Benyamine is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $93,668.60 | Rake $0.50
Board: [4c Tc Kd Kh Ah]
Seat 3: Genius28 (small blind) showed [3c Kc] and won ($93,668.10) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [Ac 8c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings

Full Tilt Poker Game #2486586180: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:45:19 ET - 2007/05/22
Seat 3: Genius28 ($133,230.30)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($48,799.50)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Genius28 raises to $1,200
David Benyamine raises to $4,400
Genius28 calls $3,200
*** FLOP *** [Ts Kd 5c]
David Benyamine bets $7,600
Genius28 calls $7,600
*** TURN *** [Ts Kd 5c] [Qc]
David Benyamine checks
Genius28 checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts Kd 5c Qc] [7h]
David Benyamine bets $36,799.50, and is all in
Genius28 calls $36,799.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
David Benyamine shows [8h Ad] (Ace King high)
Genius28 shows [Kc 7c] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
Genius28 wins the pot ($97,598.50) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
David Benyamine is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $97,599 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ts Kd 5c Qc 7h]
Seat 3: Genius28 (small blind) showed [Kc 7c] and won ($97,598.50) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 6: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [8h Ad] and lost with Ace King high

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Full Tilt Poker Game #2486607792: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:48:12 ET - 2007/05/22
Seat 3: Genius28 ($188,727.80)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($33,300)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Genius28 calls $200
David Benyamine raises to $2,000
Genius28 calls $1,600
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qd 8h]
David Benyamine bets $4,000
Genius28 calls $4,000
*** TURN *** [Qs Qd 8h] [4c]
David Benyamine checks
Genius28 bets $5,900
David Benyamine raises to $12,400
Genius28 raises to $182,727.80, and is all in
David Benyamine calls $14,900, and is all in
Genius28 shows [4h 4s]
David Benyamine shows [Ks Qh]
Uncalled bet of $155,427.80 returned to Genius28
*** RIVER *** [Qs Qd 8h 4c] [Tc]
Genius28 shows a full house, Fours full of Queens
David Benyamine shows three of a kind, Queens
Genius28 wins the pot ($66,599.50) with a full house, Fours full of Queens
David Benyamine is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $66,600 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qs Qd 8h 4c Tc]
Seat 3: Genius28 (small blind) showed [4h 4s] and won ($66,599.50) with a full house, Fours full of Queens
Seat 6: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [Ks Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

i think those hands are just bunch of coolers, genius would lost a lot if he was in David's position, its heads up holdem anything can happen.

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I agree most of them are...but shoving 36k with Ace high? lol

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I agree most of them are...but shoving 36k with Ace high? lol

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Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

Currently playing Traheho and Genius 28 on two HU 200/400 tables, he is down $250k so far....

Re: Why is Benyamine such a loser in HSNL?
 

He is genuinely running bad, imho. Think he's finished playing Traheho after this hand; Traheho has 220k stack:

Dealer: Hand #2492088866
Dealer: traheho posts the small blind of $200
Dealer: David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
Dealer: traheho raises to $1,200
Jrogersxb9r (Observer): l
Dealer: David Benyamine raises to $4,400
Dealer: traheho raises to $192,937.25, and is all in
Dealer: David Benyamine calls $21,688.35, and is all in
Dealer: traheho shows [6c 6h]
Dealer: David Benyamine shows [Jc Ac]
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $166,848.90 returned to traheho
Dealer: The flop is [8c 3d 5c]
Dealer: The turn is [5d]
Dealer: The river is [6s]
Dealer: traheho shows a full house, Sixes full of Fives
Dealer: David Benyamine shows a pair of Fives
robshaw208 (Observer): lol....shove him around
Dealer: traheho wins the pot ($52,176.20) with a full house,
Sixes full of Fives

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2667278
pokenum -h 6c 6h - jc ac -- 8c 3d 5c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 8c 5c 3d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
6c 6h 483 48.79 507 51.21 0 0.00 0.488
Ac Jc 507 51.21 483 48.79 0 0.00 0.512