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borg 10/20. awesome game.

one limper, I limp behind with Presto (55), weirdly aggro villain (but not maniacal....has PFR with T8o and K9o utg before) raises, 3 callers, all call. 6 to flop.

flop is Q52 two spades. utg donk leads, I raise, PFR 3 bangs, EVERYONE calls, I cap. Turn two, check to me I bet (maybe CR this? I didnt want to risk it getting checked thru with so many donks in), all but 2 call. River K (no spade), I bet, guy raises. Folded to me. 3 bang?

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3 bet for me.

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When were you there?

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When were you there?

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yesterday 12 noon - 10 pm ish.

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3-bet and I don't think its close. Was this the PFR raiser who raised on the river? If it wasn't, I always 3-bet. If it was, judging by your description, I still 3-bet.

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3-bet and I don't think its close. Was this the PFR raiser who raised on the river? If it wasn't, I always 3-bet. If it was, judging by your description, I still 3-bet.

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ya the PFR raised the river.

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easy 3-town given OP's description of raiser.

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haven't read any responses.

insta3bet. i'm a little confused on the action, as in if the PFR is still in or not. but this should be an easy 3bet most of the time.

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haven't read any responses.

insta3bet. i'm a little confused on the action, as in if the PFR is still in or not. but this should be an easy 3bet most of the time.

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sorry, it was the PFR who raised the river. (not "guy")

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ok let me clarify...the action went:

2 of us limped, the next guy raised preflop. some other limpers.

on the flop, the utg guy bet, I raised, and the PFR 3 bet. I capped.

on the turn, I bet and the PFR and others called.

On the river K, I bet and the PFR raised again.

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3 bet Isnt this the kind of board you looking for when you played this hand?

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3 bet Isnt this the kind of board you looking for when you played this hand?

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what are you putting the PFR on?

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This is my very first post and I registered for this topic. I think set over set s the hardest part of poker to recognize but if your opponent is a decent player (regular) only QQ would seem to fit his line.

KK could be possible ofcourse but that is to agressive in this multiwaypot I guess.

I would 3bet I guess but calling isn't that weird an option right?

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btw, you can't c/r the turn after capping the flop. you could call the flop 3bet and c/r the turn. with two spades and so many opponents i prefer the flop cap.

upon further review, i would 3bet the river. sure QQ and KK are in his range preflop. that's still fewer combos than AA, AK and KQ which would also be in his range that would play like this.

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Wouldn't AA try to keep the pot small in this multiway pot where he finds obvious resistence? They wouldn't reraise all streets would they? AK wouldn't make a cbet in this multiwaypot right unless it's AKof spades maybe.

Just wondering, what was the outcome by the way allthough I know it doesn't influence what you should have done on 5th street.

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Wouldn't AA try to keep the pot small in this multiway pot where he finds obvious resistence? They wouldn't reraise all streets would they? AK wouldn't make a cbet in this multiwaypot right unless it's AKof spades maybe.

Just wondering, what was the outcome by the way allthough I know it doesn't influence what you should have done on 5th street.

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PFR had KQ and I missed a bet.

I had trouble putting a B & M player on KQ due to the flop 3B, but I made a note of it for later.

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According to Phil Gordon's Little Green Book set over set happens about 1/100, so bet it up.

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If he was at all likely to have Q2 or K2 you could call..but he's probably holding a high card (AK,KQ,AQ)or trying too hard to bluff a busted draw.

Go to value town here.

NEVER worry about set over set. It happens but you're protected from straights and flushes and it only happens often enough to feel bad, but not enough to kill your profit on taking a set to valuetown almost every time. The only hands that have you beat is KK,QQ,22 all possible but pretty unlikely.

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3/bet. You can fold to a 4-bet vs a few opponents, sounds like you can't with him.

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I would answer you ealier question about what im putting him on but my genius would over shadowed by the fact that you already told us his holdings.LOL

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According to Phil Gordon's Little Green Book set over set happens about 1/100, so bet it up.

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This number is only relevant if no one looks at their cards other than you.