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gaboonviper 05-17-2007 08:04 PM

Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
Who is the RICHEST poker pro under 30 years of age?? There are alot of them. Here are a few for your consideration:

-Patrick Antonius

-Prahlad Friedman

-Antonio Esfandiari

-Michael Mizrachi

-Paul Wasicka

-Nick Schulman

-David Williams

-Joe Bartholdi

-Tuan Lee

-Vanessa Rousseau

-Scott Fishmann

-Dutch Boyd(LOL)

-Someone Else ?????

Once you choose who you think is the richest twenty-something then put down what you think they are worth.

luckyjimm 05-17-2007 08:05 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
Thomas Wahlroos aka Sussisu. His dad is one of the richest men in Finland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Wahlroos

luckyjimm 05-17-2007 08:06 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
Is Phil Ivey under 30?

Steel 05-17-2007 08:07 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 


Please,

Go see the all time money list on hendon mob, dont waste your time and ours with stupid questions,
you're here to learn the game, read books and sticky posts.

No need to reply.

MasterLJ 05-17-2007 08:07 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Wasicka or PA.

Methodz 05-17-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
Is Phil Ivey under 30?

[/ QUOTE ]Don't think so, I believe hes in his early 30s.

And I think OP ment from poker, so I'd say PA. But yeah, Wahlroos is the richest overall.

king_of_drafts 05-17-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Antonius; Wahlroos doesn't count

Where has Joe Bartholdi been?

Methodz 05-17-2007 08:09 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]


Please,

Go see the all time money list on hendon mob, dont waste your time and ours with stupid questions,
you're here to learn the game, read books and sticky posts.

No need to reply.

[/ QUOTE ]Theres alot of other factors than tournament winnings when considering who is the richest player.

And this is NVG.

ne14dirt 05-17-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]


Please,

Go see the all time money list on hendon mob, dont waste your time and ours with stupid questions,
you're here to learn the game, read books and sticky posts.

No need to reply.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is NVG!!!!!!!!!!!

gaboonviper 05-17-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
Just choose players who made their money from POKER RELATED AREAS. Tourneys. Cash games. Sponsorships. Books. Etc. So forget Wahlroos.

gobbomom 05-17-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
without knowledge of backers> Wasicka, over 5 mil.

Micturition Man 05-17-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
It's Antonius and it's not close.

I hate to indulge in lame gossip but I would say very conservatively Patrik is worth at least $6 M. (That's really conservative.)

No other 20-something is up that much from poker.

bones 05-17-2007 08:23 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
[ QUOTE ]
without knowledge of backers> Wasicka, over 5 mil.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you serious? Antonius gives away over 5 mil/yr just to get average looking women to leave him alone.

kerze 05-17-2007 08:26 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Why isn't aba on the OP's list?

Micturition Man 05-17-2007 08:27 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
One thing I forgot to mention is that Patrik didn't pay taxes before becoming a US resident which probably saved him in the $1-$2 M range.

Lucky Europeans...

Butcho22 05-17-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


Please,

Go see the all time money list on hendon mob, dont waste your time and ours with stupid questions,
you're here to learn the game, read books and sticky posts.

No need to reply.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is without a doubt the dumbest thing I've read today!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

Wilpro 05-17-2007 08:44 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
like, durrrr obviously

gobbomom 05-17-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
LOL!!

'Scuse my mistake, I just can't think like a guy, ldo.

edit: Paul's probably beating them off with a stick, too.

pauliewalnuts 05-17-2007 09:08 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
Gotta be Vanessa Rousseau. She is worth at least 5 figures.

taobot 05-17-2007 09:08 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's Antonius and it's not close.

I hate to indulge in lame gossip but I would say very conservatively Patrik is worth at least $6 M. (That's really conservative.)

No other 20-something is up that much from poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is what I have merely from Fulltilt PLO and O/8 since ~ last August:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5...rik0517yq9.gif

Methodz 05-17-2007 09:15 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It's Antonius and it's not close.

I hate to indulge in lame gossip but I would say very conservatively Patrik is worth at least $6 M. (That's really conservative.)

No other 20-something is up that much from poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is what I have merely from Fulltilt PLO and O/8 since ~ last August:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5...rik0517yq9.gif

[/ QUOTE ]wow that is sooooo sick.

I thought his total winnings online would be close to that, but that much from two games...nasty.

Dire 05-17-2007 09:30 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
What are the odds that there's a new person in this list after July 17th.

Red Lion 05-17-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Antonius is wealthy from business ventures outside of poker.....

IvanXDurham 05-17-2007 09:46 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
"[b]PA-TRIK Walks[b]
Pat show me the way because
the cards are trying to bring me down.
PA-TRIK WALKS
"

Micturition Man 05-17-2007 09:55 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
Antonius is wealthy from business ventures outside of poker.....

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure this is true but even if it is he's also wealthy from poker, so...

Akolades 05-17-2007 10:14 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Nick Schulman? Scott Fishmann? Nice players but do they really have enough to even be in this discussion?

How much do you think they have? What games are they playing in regularly that makes them even possible options for this?

jtown1010 05-17-2007 10:19 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
I used to see Nick Shulman playing in the bigger games on UB, he did fairly well after his multi-million dollar WPT win. I don't think he is Antonius' league though financially.


but obviously I have no idea, it's all speculation.

johnnyrocket 05-17-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's Antonius and it's not close.

I hate to indulge in lame gossip but I would say very conservatively Patrik is worth at least $6 M. (That's really conservative.)

No other 20-something is up that much from poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

hahaha, didnt wasicka win like $7.5 mil in the main event, if so ur point makes no sense

Onitsuka 05-17-2007 10:27 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Take your time retard...

jtown1010 05-17-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
I think it is fairly realistic to assume Antonius has made more over the last couple years in cash games than the 8+ million Wasicka has made in tournaments, after taxes obviously.

N 82 50 24 05-17-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
Wasicka won 6 at the ME, but he also won a bunch at the HU champs and LAPC -- along with his already existing roll prior to the ME last year. He was a pretty big winner online and still is I'm sure (when he plays).

Obv taxes don't help though.

daca 05-17-2007 10:55 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
How much is cardrunners worth? How many people own a part?

Taylor/aba gotta be up there.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 05-17-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


Please,

Go see the all time money list on hendon mob, dont waste your time and ours with stupid questions,
you're here to learn the game, read books and sticky posts.

No need to reply.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is NVG!!!!!!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

THIS. IS. SPAAAAARTA!!!!

also - since when is wasicka a pro? lol

morello 05-17-2007 11:34 PM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
I'm not sure what the American tax rate is (~40% at the highest bracket?) but since Antonius' winnings are untaxed, that's gotta push him to the top of the list if he wasn't there already before taxes.

Micturition Man 05-18-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
I didn't know Wasicka won $6m or whatever at the WSOP. I really don't follow tournaments. I assumed we were really talking about cash game success here.

I think obviously he should be excluded as an outlier, but like I said my $6m estimate for Antonius was very conservative anyway.

moving shapes 05-18-2007 12:30 AM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
yeah and if you're going to include tournaments anyway, you can add on another $2m to PA's earnings..

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...=s&n=23225

Bretty27 05-18-2007 12:38 AM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
I'm assuming Jdags is richer than most people on that list.

EmpireMaker2 05-18-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
Since Cassidy got around 2 million staking bartholdi and making insane money in limit he prolly has more than PA....

IvanXDurham 05-18-2007 02:24 AM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasicka..
 
I've been searching left and right for Bartholdi busto rumors since I saw his interview at the WPT Championship a few weeks ago. No dice. I guess all those article about him being a bankroll swinger from Vegas,(Baby)Vegas, left an impression on me.

GoldenIP 05-18-2007 02:33 AM

Re: Richest Twenty-Something Pro?? Antonius? Mizrachi? Williams? Wasic
 
[ QUOTE ]
Since Cassidy got around 2 million staking bartholdi and making insane money in limit he prolly has more than PA....

[/ QUOTE ]

I was going to say the same thing. I remember when PA was playing on Ladbrokes about 3 years ago (early 2004 ish) and he had over a million dollar bankroll. It's an assumption but I remember him sitting at the "high stakes" (at the time) 200/400LHE table with over $700k. Must assume his roll was breaching $1m even then and that was 3 years ago. It wouldn't surprise me, along with his 2nd place finish, that he has in excess of $10m. And that PT screenshot of $5m since last August, sick. I don't even think it's close.

I was going to add Joe Cassidy to at least the top 3 and surely sbrugby is closing in on the top echelon?


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