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TheSnowman21 05-17-2007 05:54 PM

Beat: 24k Hands on Stars
 
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Theres no way this is good. However, I'm amazed I'm barely breakeven when I'm pretty certain I'm a good player (flame away).

2007 was my foray into NL following losing a 10/20 limit roll in early 2006, and then a misguided 9 months in SnG world which resulted in being breakeven over 100's of tourneys...

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aceskay 05-17-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Beat: 24k Hands on Stars
 
wow, and i've put in a lot of hands at 25nl and 50nl...sorry dude, but that's bad, real bad

Heavens_Myst 05-17-2007 05:59 PM

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23k hand breakeven, watch out everyone

Heavens_Myst 05-17-2007 06:00 PM

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wow, and i've put in a lot of hands at 25nl and 50nl...sorry dude, but that's bad, real bad

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leveling right?

ughaulkghalugh 05-17-2007 06:00 PM

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keikiwai 05-17-2007 06:01 PM

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i broke even for 100K+ hands before, but i suck

ughaulkghalugh 05-17-2007 06:03 PM

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thats ok ur keikiwai u could suck a dick if u wanted to

DopamineRelease 05-17-2007 06:05 PM

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wow, and i've put in a lot of hands at 25nl and 50nl...sorry dude, but that's bad, real bad

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leveling right?

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You realize this is 25nl, 50nl, and 10nl, right?

DannyOcean_ 05-17-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Beat: 24k Hands on Stars
 
i am running about 2ptbb/100 at NL25 over 20K hands. I realized I'm not nearly as good as i thought i was. That's my advice to you as well. Micro-nits unite (we will fly one day)!

aceskay 05-17-2007 06:23 PM

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wow, and i've put in a lot of hands at 25nl and 50nl...sorry dude, but that's bad, real bad

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leveling right?

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no leveling here. i am speaking the truth. not being able to win at 10nl, 25nl, and 50nl is terrible. and i've played lots of hands at that level, so i am saying that i have experienced it.

DopamineRelease 05-17-2007 06:26 PM

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wow, and i've put in a lot of hands at 25nl and 50nl...sorry dude, but that's bad, real bad

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leveling right?

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no leveling here. i am speaking the truth. not being able to win at 10nl, 25nl, and 50nl is terrible. and i've played lots of hands at that level, so i am saying that i have experienced it.

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I agree, QFT

TheSnowman21 05-18-2007 05:31 AM

Re: Beat: 24k Hands on Stars
 
I agree that its terrible, but I would've thought with my game and the stats I've posted (which don't indicate any major leak imho), I should be winning at a decent clip. Incidently I've played the same amount of hands (ish) on Party over this period for 5-6ptbb/100, but refuse to believe Stars is that much more difficult at this level.

On the other hand, how many times can i suck @ a poker game before finally admitting its is me being bad > luck?

Wilpro 05-18-2007 05:49 AM

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Even at $25nl the games on stars are much much harder than the games on party. I know 25nl still aint hard on stars, but running at 9ptbb > 4ptbb... Maybe stars is just rigged

cisco_kid 05-18-2007 06:08 AM

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I had a great 2006, and an ok start to the year... have had a similar run of ~ 25k hands break even now and I am really getting [cenored] off with it to be honest. That said getting [cenored] off with it probably isn't helping. Praise the lord for rakeback and bonus'. Is this amount of breakeven standard if you a "fairly" good player (Or is my monkey tilt spiraling out of control)?

leatherass 05-18-2007 06:49 AM

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This is clearly a terrble run. You have pretty solid numbers and should truly dominate those limits. Your wtsd is high and your w$sd is low which is a dreadful combo. Keep your chin up.

illuminati 05-18-2007 06:54 AM

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22/17 will crush 25nl unless you have gaping crevaces in your post flop play

Daddy Warbucks 05-18-2007 07:09 AM

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22/17 will crush 25nl unless you have gaping crevaces in your post flop play

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Why else would you be playing 25nl?

pdoran10 05-18-2007 08:00 AM

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jesus. whats going on here? he has good HUD stats, so we say he is good? what am i missing?

Play better postflop.

tobotronik 05-18-2007 08:08 AM

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"when I'm pretty certain I'm a good player "


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no flame, but maybe you want to consider the fact that you are not?!

TheSnowman21 05-18-2007 10:54 AM

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no flame, but maybe you want to consider the fact that you are not?!

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I think I did that here:

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On the other hand, how many times can i suck @ a poker game before finally admitting its is me being bad > luck?

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Thanks for the positive comments. Re: post-flop play, I've run the SSNL PT check which didnt indicate any glaring errors playing PP's, suited connectors etc.

I do remember a quote from Aba on CR saying he was teaching a friend and said c-betting 100% flops @ ssnl was not a big mistake, so i do c-bet 95% of the time. Maybe this is the first area of improvement i'll look into.

Strategy in bbv - LOL

Stake Monster 05-18-2007 11:12 AM

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stats can be very deceiving. Good players can have bad runs at any limits. If the cards don't fall right anyone can lose.

morphball 05-18-2007 11:47 AM

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wow, and i've put in a lot of hands at 25nl and 50nl...sorry dude, but that's bad, real bad

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leveling right?

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no leveling here. i am speaking the truth. not being able to win at 10nl, 25nl, and 50nl is terrible. and i've played lots of hands at that level, so i am saying that i have experienced it.

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Actually, you are acting like a huge douche bag. The dude has 13k or less hands at every level, he could be a winning player for all we know. Actually why don't you post your graphs for all these levels, and let's see if you don't have some extended breakeven stretches yourself.


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