Playing bad against weak players
 

Hi there,

I was wondering if anyone was experimenting the same problem as I do...

I usually play 5$-10$ No limit hold'em on the internet and when it comes to a live poker with friends and a 10$ buy-in, it seems like I start playing very bad... this is due to many factors... 1st, I can't put my friends on a hand as they don't really have "standard" starting hand requirements .. (ex: they will feel K 9 is worth calling a preflop bet). 2nd, I can't bluff them as they will probably call... 3rd, we play like 30 hands / hour and I'm used to playing at least 100 hands / hour on the net so I feel like I must make a move even if I don't get the cards... In other words, I can't put myself in my opponent's mind because he doesn't know himself what he is doing :S Finally, I don't really give **** about the 10$ so I am not very motivated to play well...

Anyways, I know a good poker players against both category of players, but it seems like there is something I don't get. By the way, my average for the last 2 months on high stakes is 100$+/hour.

I'm pissed off... been loosing like 3 games against total newbies who believe poker is a game of luck and are happy to go all in preflop with K 10

PS: sorry for my mediocre english

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microstakes live poker versus donks is so goddamn boring if you are trying to play well. just start playing like 50/40, throwing in lots of minraises, etc. it's way more fun

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just go all in preflop, and on the flop any time you have top pair, or a big draw, or any other time you're pretty sure you have the best hand.

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Man, I go through the same thing with my buddies. We play on Friday nights with a $5 buy-in. I can't get them to go any higher because I win about 70% of the time, and finish second quite often when I don't win. Yet they don't do anything to get better at the game, and are convinced Q-9 suited is a great hand that should be raised with.

I've found it most profitable for me to play a super-tight game until the blinds reach at least 400-800. And always be skeptical of the slowplay. It seems to be their favorite move - check-call on the flop, check-call on the turn, all-in on the river.

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Man, I go through the same thing with my buddies. We play on Friday nights with a $5 buy-in. I can't get them to go any higher because I win about 70% of the time, and finish second quite often when I don't win. Yet they don't do anything to get better at the game, and are convinced Q-9 suited is a great hand that should be raised with.

I've found it most profitable for me to play a super-tight game until the blinds reach at least 400-800. And always be skeptical of the slowplay. It seems to be their favorite move - check-call on the flop, check-call on the turn, all-in on the river.

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Wow you sound like fun would you like to come play in my homegame?

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I play $15 games with friends SNG's. I still play hard and try to win. They know im the best cuz ive been destroying. Its fun to play sometimes and when i play at my friends house he has a cat that i get to pet when im not playing hands

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my standard home game strat ends up being about 98/0

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mine are usually 100/60 with 20% being open shoves. $5 buyin cash games and everyone complains when i try to buyin for $20

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he has a cat that i get to pet when im not playing hands

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lol

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I can't even imagine playing well in a $10 buy-in home game after playing decent stakes. When I'd try to go from 5/10 on the internet to 1/2 live, I'd do things like go all-in PF with K8 and end up donking off chips like crazy.

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Basically against this type of field you want to play it like you would a rebuy tourney. Premium PF? Push. Otherwise limp every hand and push w/ top pair or better. You're not pricing them out so just push when you think you're ahead, they'll talk themselves into calling w/ any piece or draw since they don't know odds.

Or, just not play since it may as well be play money anyway.

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is this a serious thread....

why would you care beating those players if what you say is true about your income in the *real games* ?!?!

I mean, when I play with friends (quite often), stakes are always quite lower than what im used to and for some reason, im not having amazing results against them because :

1) i'm donking and i feel good about it (finally! I can do all the fun and obviously bad moves i won't do normally because not profitable)

2) i don't care much.

They all know I play a lot online and winning but none of em understand the game and what it requires to succeed. I'm definately not there to teach em and prove everyone im a better player. Noone cares anyway, they just want the thrill of a poker game and the occasional win.

And they are glad and amazed when they see me rebuy 5 times and spew like a donk. They think im a degenerate lol. It`s just micro stakes and they dont get the whole picture about how i see those games.

Basically, im always having a good time playin with friends, and i dont care much about the results.

I'm still an overall winner anyway lol.

So my question is : you play 5/10 NL and are pîssed at not crushing that 10$ buyin game? My god, focus on 5/10 NL and be glad about it.

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Anyways, I know a good poker players

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your post contradicts this, the necessary adjustments are trivial, oh yah, and
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topless dealer

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Yet they don't do anything to get better at the game, and are convinced Q-9 suited is a great hand that should be raised with.

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Yes why don't they realize that Q9, being the'computer hand' is only the nuts online, but is garbage live. When will they learn?

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BuddyQ - I'm afraid I don't understand your post. Are you saying Q9 IS a great hand? If so, please come play me for cash.

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so you play 5/10nl and make 100$ an hour?

that's freaking terrible dude

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BuddyQ - I'm afraid I don't understand your post. Are you saying Q9 IS a great hand? If so, please come play me for cash.

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q9 is a good hand read a book donkey

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so you play 5/10nl and make 100$ an hour?

that's freaking terrible dude

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incorrect.

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I play $15 games with friends SNG's. I still play hard and try to win. They know im the best cuz ive been destroying. Its fun to play sometimes and when i play at my friends house he has a cat that i get to pet when im not playing hands

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somehow, this seems kinda dirty...i don't think ur talking about petting your friend "cat"...just me, though, my mind is always in the gutter..made me laugh though