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ghcnoob 05-14-2007 01:48 AM

Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

nickg1532 05-14-2007 01:57 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
i wouldn't bet the flop. i would probably c/c down UI

Lunar Tweak 05-14-2007 05:57 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
or if you do bet the flop and he raises, then i'd fold the turn. depends on the player, if their flop raise will confirm they have a pair. but if it's a crazy LAG, then calling down UI is probably a better line.

goofball 05-15-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
What did you hope to accomplish by betting the flop?

ghcnoob 05-15-2007 03:11 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
The flop bet is bad in retrospect. When I posted this I didn't realize he had 4-bet p/f. I was hoping to bully a fellow AK-type hand but he could 4-bet with QQ-AA and mabye JJ as well, making my donk a donkey move.

TheWunderkind 05-15-2007 05:32 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
that hand is badly played &gt; Flop bet i useless and the calldown too

imitation 05-15-2007 10:07 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
Fwiw I don't mind this, you guys are really putting way too much into the preflop cap it could mean anything this is a blind battle.

TheWunderkind 05-15-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
yeah thats right &gt; i missed that &gt; but i still dont like the Flop bet &gt; c/c is better vs most

DCWildcat 05-15-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
Checkraise somewhere

nickg1532 05-15-2007 01:48 PM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
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Fwiw I don't mind this, you guys are really putting way too much into the preflop cap it could mean anything this is a blind battle.

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i prefer c/c, not because i necessarily thinks he has a monster, but because i don't see what it accomplishes. if he has a worse hand, he'll never fold. but he will always bet it himself if checked to, so there's really no difference between betting and checking. but if he does have a better hand, we are getting raised.

nickg1532 05-15-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
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Checkraise somewhere

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explain

edit: is it for value against hands like AQ?

TheWunderkind 05-15-2007 01:55 PM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
yeah i dont understand it either...

sethypooh21 05-15-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
If you want 2+ bets to go in on the flop, C/R, don't bet, the lead looks scared/weak, IMO. Against most villains, I call down U/I, against very passive, I probably fold river.

Hi5 05-17-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Stars 5/10: AK vs. unknown: standard or spew
 
Against an unknown, you should tend to take the cautious line with marginal hands. At most, you can c/r the flop and call down. Otherwise c/c all the way. If he's going that far with AQ, AJ or KQ, then you've learned something about this player.


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