Luxor 1/2 $50 buy in?
 

I have heard about this game from some people on here and it sounds...just weird. Anyway, Myself and two other friends will be staying at the Luxor in a couple of weekends for the poker rate.

Now, before all of the "room is terrible" talk, keep in mind between three of us we only have to play 1.5 hours there a day.

Has anybody played in this game? What is it like? I assume the play is terrible, but what kind of strategy did you use to accumulate chips...besides pushing on first hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It's 1/1/2 blinds. Play is terrible, and the buy in is effectively a $99 because once you go below 50, you can buy another 50. Its the lowest NL game in the city, easy pickings but the 3 blinds and structure of 25bb's sucks, IMO.

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Played in it late one night. INSANELY loose since half the table was DRUNK. Easy pickings if you can loosen up your game and play along these fools.

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I've never actually played there but my friend played at the Luxor last summer. He said it's just rediculousy stupid play at that at certain points it would just be stupid to by into the game if certain stacks were as high as they were the day he played there.

He said he and one other guy respectivly worked their stacks up into the $400-500 range. Anytime one of the fresh $50 buy in's sat down and raised it to $10, if either of them had any kind of modest to good hand they would raise them all in for their last $40. Most of the time they won too because they could afford to push around a $50 stack.

I would just say if 1 or 2 guys has a decent stack size don't sit down in the game, your $50 will not threaten them at all, and they will try to bust you and may get lucky or they may not, but either way do you want coin flips going the whole time your there?

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This is the perfect game for someone who has no post-flop skills at all. Like the previous poster said, it's a push fest for $50. If you have post-flop skills and enough for a buyin of 100-200 you're better off playing at a normal 12NL table elsewhere.

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orked their stacks up into the $400-500 range. Anytime one of the fresh $50 buy in's sat down and raised it to $10, if either of them had any kind of modest to good hand they would raise them all in for their last $40. Most of the time they won too because they could afford to push around a $50 stack.

I would just say if 1 or 2 guys has a decent stack size don't sit down in the game, your $50 will not threaten them at all, and they will try to bust you and may get lucky or they may not, but either way do you want coin flips going the whole time your there?

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This is wrong on so many levels. This is not a tournament. You are sitting with $50 in hopes of at least doubling up. What part of doubling up against someone who doesn't care about $50 of their stack bothers you? Again, it's not a tournament. I'm not going to go deep into this logic since a search will come up with tons of information contradicting what you have posted and lots of it is good information to read. But if you are afraid of bigger stacks, then I want you in my game every chance I get, same goes for other people that are scared of "stack size" in a NL cash game.

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orked their stacks up into the $400-500 range. Anytime one of the fresh $50 buy in's sat down and raised it to $10, if either of them had any kind of modest to good hand they would raise them all in for their last $40. Most of the time they won too because they could afford to push around a $50 stack.

I would just say if 1 or 2 guys has a decent stack size don't sit down in the game, your $50 will not threaten them at all, and they will try to bust you and may get lucky or they may not, but either way do you want coin flips going the whole time your there?

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This is wrong on so many levels. This is not a tournament. You are sitting with $50 in hopes of at least doubling up. What part of doubling up against someone who doesn't care about $50 of their stack bothers you? Again, it's not a tournament. I'm not going to go deep into this logic since a search will come up with tons of information contradicting what you have posted and lots of it is good information to read. But if you are afraid of bigger stacks, then I want you in my game every chance I get, same goes for other people that are scared of "stack size" in a NL cash game.

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I get your point of view in general. But if you can only buy in for $50, it's an average of $10 to see a flop, and you'll get called by at least one player on a push, what's the recommended strategy?

Wait for a premium hand and push? By then your stack is down to say, $40 from the blinds you've paid. If you're pulling out more cash every time the blinds come around or you see a flop, what's the fun?

There's just no way to have much post-flop play in this structure.

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It's a 2 round betting game with such a short stack. Just keep pounding it in there till you tripple up or whatnot and then you can actually play poker. It's basically SNG style strategy till you get some chips. Be prepared to rebuy 6-10 times in a game like this till you have some chips to play with.

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I stayed at the Luxor and played this quite a few hours a day for the weekend about two months ago. It's very soft, the structure is a bit silly but just bring enough to rebuy a few times. People were raising like $15-20 without much resembling a reasonable hand. Throw in a blind so you can get stack up to $99 right away. Then you should have enough to wait on a decent hand and start stacking them off. It's extremely loose. Didn't take but 30 hands or so to get up to $250+. At least half the table doesn't understand the basic rules and the rest are clueless as to how the structure should dictate plays. So, it's cheap fun.

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It's a 2 round betting game with such a short stack. Just keep pounding it in there till you tripple up or whatnot and then you can actually play poker. It's basically SNG style strategy till you get some chips. Be prepared to rebuy 6-10 times in a game like this till you have some chips to play with.

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I guess I see it as more fun (less variance) when I can buy directly into a $200 buyin 12NL game. This game would have to be massively profitable once you build a stack in order to justify losing 6-10 buyins first. I'm sure it's not that good for my style play, but I'm sure some people love it.

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Well 6 buys ins at this game is still only $300. There are 1/2 games that go up to the 10x the buy in that this game has. It's all personal preference. But if rebuying multiple times tilts you, stay away or at least let me know when you're going to be playing [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Well 6 buys ins at this game is still only $300. There are 1/2 games that go up to the 10x the buy in that this game has. It's all personal preference. But if rebuying multiple times tilts you, stay away or at least let me know when you're going to be playing [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Nice. I figured you for a solid player. Wouldn't you be at a better advantage over opponents when you can actually use all 4 betting rounds?

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I played in this game a fair bit the last time I went to Vegas. I didn't intend to play in it very much but I was staying at the Luxor with a few friends and we ended up hanging out in that poker room when we had time to kill. I had originally intended to walk to another room like MGM or Excal but usually just ended up sitting at Luxor if I only had an hour or two to play.

I wouldn't recommend this game to any decent player. It was annoying not having enough chips to play with. And even when I was able to get a decent sized stack most of the time the other players had like $30 each. Also playing with such short stacks helps the mediocre players to play better because they can't make any huge mistakes either preflop or postflop. I didn't find the average player in that game to be any worse than a typical 1/2 NL game either.

So basically I don't recommend playing there very much. However, this is a great NL game to get drunk in. It's so easy to play push bot poker and they were fairly quick at bringing Coronas.

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Is the opportunity cost worth the free room? You can make more playing a legitimate game.

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I played in this game at the Luxor a few Saturdays ago in the late morning. I thought the 1-1-2 structure sucked big time, so I did not stay very long. At one point, we were 6-handed, and the structure changed to the traditional 1-2. However, the table quickly filled back up and we were at 1-1-2 again.

The 1-3 NL at the Excalibur next door was much better, IMO.

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Its the lowest NL game in the city, easy pickings but the 3 blinds and structure of 25bb's sucks, IMO.

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There is a 1/1 40NL game, but it's in Henderson.

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This style game is very similiar to the one i broke my teeth learning NL in the casinos on, which was a 1/1 $40.

Basically, lots of limping and try to get your money in when you hit something. Top pair good kicker for instance.
Also, Raise and Re-raise anything premium pre flop, and lots of things pretty darn good.
AQ-AK, AA, KK, QQ, JJ and sometimes TT are all hands that I would be willing to stack off for 50 bucks preflop If someone raised and I could get a push in.

It is just a very different game to play until you accumulate some chips and has to be played accordingly.

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I've played this game quite a bit. It's actually a fun structure and there is a bit more play than others would indicate:

The max buy is effectively ~100, since you can rebuy at 49, and most people do.

Games vary a lot, sometimes they play really tight passive, other times total fish fest. There are a lot of regulars that play here as well, they usually play okay.

In general, most of the players play passively, so you can wait for a good spot to get your money in. A lot of tourists stop by and dump money onto the table.

I was playing in Dec. and a couple french guys came and sat w/ craps money, got all my money in pre w/ one of them who had QTo vs my aces (I lost). Later I doubed through when I flopped Aces up vs. him when he had no pair no draw on the flop. He ludicrously overbet, I pushed, he called. And these guys had tons of money.

Obviously your not going to make rent money playing here but its a fun game.

Interestly, I've also met a lot of people from the headliner shows that play at the Luxor playing this game for fun.

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I played in this game a few months ago and it was nothing like what's being described here. It was just like any other NL game, only smaller. Opening raise was usually between $6 and $10. Not much raising postflop, but when there was, it was pretty much understood the raiser was pot-committed. Deepest stack on the table was about $120.

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Thanks for the expectations. Like I said, I am not going to play there very often..just enough to fulfill my poker rate requirement which is 5 hours a day divided by 3 people staying in the room.

I might use it as a drinking game a few nights late. I prefer to play at Bally's or Ceaser's-I like MGM but one of my friends wont play there.

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I just came back from LV and my friend and I played at the Luxor for about 9 hrs one day. It's a very pleasant poker rooms with friendly dealers (particularly the older guys). I left with $400, mainly thanks to a nice Dutch kid who just couldn't fold overpairs. :-) Now, what I liked about this game is that the players were for the most part sociable tourists, instead of the local degenerates we saw at Binions and Golden Nugget. It was definitely a nice change of pace not to have to wander if the guy next to you in the square glasses (prison issue?) with a sing-song voice did 3-5 for some sort of sexual crime involving kids (any locals who play at the Nugget may know him). ;-) Basically, if poker is a social activity for you, the Luxor is great - you just won't win (or lose) a whole lot.