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NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
Villain in this hand is the real NYU Dave (some people mistake me for NYU Dave because my name is David, I also go to NYU, and play high-stakes poker in NYC). The real slim shady is a highly unpredictable player who has been on a massive massive rush lately in the NYC cash games. His confidence, therefore, is at an absolute all-time high.
We are playing 3-handed 100/200 NL. He is playing very solid in this session (and in general as of late), value betting very thinly (have seen him bet middle pair twice correctly v. the third player). We have a long history and have played each other hundreds of hours. We know each other's games very well. He is capable of absolutely anything at the table, but is IMO too loose preflop and chases weak draws. Advice on all streets on both hands welcome (I would really like to hear how you would play the ENTIRE hand, as I think I could have played all streets differently). Effective stacks are 40kish. Hand 1: I raise K3hh on the button to 600, SB folds, BB (NYU dave calls).He could literally have any two at this point. Flop is J93 one heart. He checks I check behind (is this a mistake?). I had been c-betting approximately 70% of hands after the flop in position and had been taking most down on the flop or turn. Turn is a 3. I now have trips. He leads weak (400). I raise to 1500. Again, I'm really not sure how much merit there is in raising here, but I decided to do so for value, obviously. He calls after not much thought. I have seen him take this weak lead time many times with anything from a draw to a big hand to air trying to steal it cheap. River is a Q. There is no flush (nor was there any flush draw). However, 108 or the gutter just got there. He checks. I decide to value bet, I couldn't really decide on a bet size amount (what do people bet here?) but I bet 3500. He thinks for a while, and pulls out a big stack, and checkraises to 15k. As I am thinking, he says, "the queen didn't help me," and he gets up from the table and says he can't watch and he goes into the smoke room and starts making faces at me. What do you guys put him on, and can you let this go? Hand 2: Again: stacks are approx 40k effective. NYU Dave raises button to 600 I call from the SB with 86o. This is probably a mistake but I had been playing much tighter preflop than both of these players and the implied odds in this game can be fairly high. Flop comes out 664 two spades. I have trips. I check, he bets 500, I CR to 2500. He calls after not too much thought. Turn is a Q, non-spade. I bet 5500. On the turn, I strongly considered check raising very big. I thought there was a reasonable chance my hand would look much more like a draw and he might pay me off wanting to protect his hand. However, I decided to lead (also, was my bet too small?) because he could have a draw and I did not want to give him a free card. He hemms and haws a little bit, and calls. River is the 9s, completing the flush. What do people like on this river? I decided to check. He thinks for a bit, and bets 8k. Action? Again, I'd like to hear advice on all streets for both hands. Obviously, the river decisions on both hands are paramount, but I'd like to hear lines on other streets, as well. Thanks, dlpnyc21 |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
Hi Dave,
I think both are calls, though the 2nd one is a lot easier than the 1st one. In order for a good player to have you in hand 2, he needs to have had you beat before the river. Maybe he turned Qs full, but gl to him if that's the case. Hand 1 is tricky. Raising the turn seems mandatory with a hand that strong, and yet to get action from a tough player, he needs to have something pretty damn good (open-ender or overpair) to give you action, OR you have to be regularly bluff-raising in this spot. I think you probably do, since he can obviously just be taking a stab there after you check behind. The comments and behavior after the river bet make me want to call. Getting up and leaving, going to smoke and THEN making faces at you shows me that he wasn't comfortable enough to act cool at the table, and needed to get into a less stressful environment to get it together. "The Q didn't help me," isn't a standard comment IMO. When a good player makes a comment that you hear often from less-good players, he's usually employing some kind of fake (or double-fake). But a non-standard comment is less likely to be used this way, and at face value, he seems to be trying to say subtly that he's not bluffing. I think he is. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
call the first
decent chance youre behind in the first one, but he could easily have a worse 3 and is vbetting (you say he likes to make thin vbets). i would believe him that the Q didnt hit him. i think he puts you on something like AQ that raised his weak looking bet and is trying to get a lot of value on the river, so he is in turn trying to get big value out of his hand. i dont think hes lying that the queen didnt help him, and it seems like he has a 3 more than a boat because he would probably repop pre or fold more often than not with the possible boat hands. 2nd hand with the way he plays its very tough, but i put him squarely on QQ and not a flush. i suppose this type of player can float you twice and would definitely do it unpredictably, so i think calling is eh, but folding is probably better based on the fact that he acted a bit on the turn, called the flop c/r and made a solid, callable river bet when it doesnt seem like he would have the flush. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
oh god, you are such a huge moron. where should i start?
"The real slim shady is a highly unpredictable player who has been on a massive massive rush lately in the NYC cash games. His confidence, therefore, is at an absolute all-time high." "the real slim shady"? get real you loser. you try to make him and yourself sound so important in these moronic posts all the time i find it laughably absurd but now just annoying. stop trying to make him sound like a crazy villain capable of anything. he's just a rich donk with money so he's in every hand trying to find ways to get rocks who are UNDEROLLED like you to fold best hands. you seem to have impossible decisions every hand when youre three handed and flop trips with monster kicker against him. i cant wait till you play with real players and you muck 2nd pair constantly when it's good 99% of the time. i think you're a really awful player and am starting to get sick of these posts making yourself sound like you can actually play b/c you made a couple bucks in the livest game in the country. you would get chewed up by anybody who could really play and seem to already have your hands full with a megadonk in nyudave (i mean "the real slim shady"). get a grip. you're not a cool guy, youre a dork and a lousy poker player. p.s. i know both these dave cats and have played with them before. i kept quiet for a while but this cats out of control and needs a reality check. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
gauch is tough and a winner in difficult hsnl online games, and has always been a super nice guy in my experience.
I don't know the opponent, but I probably call both :/ gotta run to see the fight, but I'll post tomorrow |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
wow burn
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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oh god, you are such a huge moron. where should i start? "The real slim shady is a highly unpredictable player who has been on a massive massive rush lately in the NYC cash games. His confidence, therefore, is at an absolute all-time high." "the real slim shady"? get real you loser. you try to make him and yourself sound so important in these moronic posts all the time i find it laughably absurd but now just annoying. stop trying to make him sound like a crazy villain capable of anything. he's just a rich donk with money so he's in every hand trying to find ways to get rocks who are UNDEROLLED like you to fold best hands. you seem to have impossible decisions every hand when youre three handed and flop trips with monster kicker against him. i cant wait till you play with real players and you muck 2nd pair constantly when it's good 99% of the time. i think you're a really awful player and am starting to get sick of these posts making yourself sound like you can actually play b/c you made a couple bucks in the livest game in the country. you would get chewed up by anybody who could really play and seem to already have your hands full with a megadonk in nyudave (i mean "the real slim shady"). get a grip. you're not a cool guy, youre a dork and a lousy poker player. p.s. i know both these dave cats and have played with them before. i kept quiet for a while but this cats out of control and needs a reality check. [/ QUOTE ] lol...do i know you? what is your name? oh, HU? |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
i'm done posting. just wanted to do it once for all the people - and there are a few - who are sick of your unwarranted bragging. quick question btw...why are you so loud online and just stfu whenever anybody sees you in person? nah i'll pass on the HU you're live reads are too "sick" for me. just tone it down it bit bro, please.
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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i'm done posting. just wanted to do it once for all the people - and there are a few - who are sick of your unwarranted bragging. quick question btw...why are you so loud online and just stfu whenever anybody sees you in person? nah i'll pass on the HU you're live reads are too "sick" for me. just tone it down it bit bro, please. [/ QUOTE ] how is posting two tough hands bragging? i usually don't say much in person, i'm pretty mild mannered--i never really say much...but if there are so many people who are sick of me bragging online just tell me to my face in person or tell me your name if you can call me out in a public forum... |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
uggh. last post.
1. "how is posting two tough hands bragging?" dude im obviously referring to more than this one ridiculous post you made. 2. don't worry about a big confrontation with me telling it to your face or playing me HU. just learn to take a little criticism. try to be more humble and tone it down a bit. chit bud...try rereading some of your previous posts and you'll see what im talking about. signing off... |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
Forget NYU Dave, I wanna hear about "Russian" Al's play or maybe "Duron-key".
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
if he's a lousy poker player get him hu and take his roll.
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
hand 1: I like the flop check, I play the turn the same, and I 'd bet 3K on the river.Well, as said before, he could be value betting a weaker 3, and his weak lead probably means he doesn't have much (I might be wrong, but I would try to get a bigger pot if I had a full house, and in order to win it I know that I would have to be against a good three or a very good made hand anyway, so betting big anyway won't lose anything I guess.)
I would call the raise.I also like cero-Z analysis about his body language and behaviour and comments.I call, but I m not very happy about it. hand 2: well, basically, he raises, you call OOP, you check raise the flop, HE CALLS, you lead strong on the turn, HE CALLS AGAIN (which is the pivot defining point of the hand IMO), so he is not here to fool around.And, as Cero Z, I think the river is irrelevant. There's too much strenght represented from his side, I would fold that one. By the way, I like your posts. ban likoping. That's all. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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uggh. last post. 1. "how is posting two tough hands bragging?" dude im obviously referring to more than this one ridiculous post you made. 2. don't worry about a big confrontation with me telling it to your face or playing me HU. just learn to take a little criticism. try to be more humble and tone it down a bit. chit bud...try rereading some of your previous posts and you'll see what im talking about. signing off... [/ QUOTE ] Wow you must be grandiose |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
First thread that EM2 has posted in and not been the most annoying poster in the thread.
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
I'd fold the first one and would bet out the river ~10kish in the 2nd one. As played, I would probably fold the second one but it depends on how thinly he value bets.
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
Anyone wanna checkraise river in hand two?
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
Hand one his range seems to be T8, A3 and a bunch of weaker 3's. Id expect to see A3 a lot but also a lot of other 3's. Call.
Hand two, i'm not sure that the C/R is a good idea. Isnt your hand basically a spade/straightdraw or trips? Is his calling range pairs + draws? Could he be floating with something like AQ? I think the C/R makes this hand much harder to play. If he is capable of floating then i think that this hand is a call on the river, because he may have called with the intent to take it away when a spade hits. just a small stakes players 2 cents |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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Forget NYU Dave, I wanna hear about "Russian" Al's play or maybe "Duron-key". [/ QUOTE ] If "Russian" Al (i can only imagine where his money comes from) and/or Duron(rich kid family money) are in this game in NY,,,,,,,,,,I dont care what the stakes are,it HAS to be weak. They are the TWO biggest HS fish in the the northeast! |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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gauch is tough and a winner in difficult hsnl online games, and has always been a super nice guy in my experience. I don't know the opponent, but I probably call both :/ gotta run to see the fight, but I'll post tomorrow [/ QUOTE ] going to quote that bc i think dave is very nice, too. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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I think both are calls, though the 2nd one is a lot easier than the 1st one. In order for a good player to have you in hand 2, he needs to have had you beat before the river. Maybe he turned Qs full, but gl to him if that's the case. [/ QUOTE ] sup cero. curious why you feel this is the case, bc i feel the opposite. bc id strongly consider mucking here. first seems like a pretty routine call, also. and fwiw, id bet the flop. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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he's just a rich donk with money so he's in every hand trying to find ways to get rocks who are UNDEROLLED like you to fold best hands. [/ QUOTE ] Is this accurate about villain? since if this is true it makes calling much easier |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
likoping = coward for running his mouth anonymously on an internet board...Man Up "Bro"
dlpnyc21 = very nice guy...one of few quality hand posters these days Hand 1 - i definitely cbet the flop here...other than that i like your line...having played with NYU Dave (and dlp), I think the walking away/making faces is actually very strong...also, while he is the type to do it, i still dont see that many river checkraise bluffs these days...last, if he has played hundreds of hours with you, he knows you have a propensity to call in these situations with any hand of reasonable strength...all that said, i make a call (he plays like a random number generator sometimes) and expect to lose hand 2- dont love the flop checkraise, i think i would have saved it for the turn...all in all, dont think the line is bad though...instacall for me on the river... |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
arent you scared cops or someone else will rob you playing with this much cash?
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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oh god, you are such a huge moron. where should i start? "The real slim shady is a highly unpredictable player who has been on a massive massive rush lately in the NYC cash games. His confidence, therefore, is at an absolute all-time high." "the real slim shady"? get real you loser. you try to make him and yourself sound so important in these moronic posts all the time i find it laughably absurd but now just annoying. stop trying to make him sound like a crazy villain capable of anything. he's just a rich donk with money so he's in every hand trying to find ways to get rocks who are UNDEROLLED like you to fold best hands. you seem to have impossible decisions every hand when youre three handed and flop trips with monster kicker against him. i cant wait till you play with real players and you muck 2nd pair constantly when it's good 99% of the time. i think you're a really awful player and am starting to get sick of these posts making yourself sound like you can actually play b/c you made a couple bucks in the livest game in the country. you would get chewed up by anybody who could really play and seem to already have your hands full with a megadonk in nyudave (i mean "the real slim shady"). get a grip. you're not a cool guy, youre a dork and a lousy poker player. p.s. i know both these dave cats and have played with them before. i kept quiet for a while but this cats out of control and needs a reality check. [/ QUOTE ] förbjuda [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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oh god, you are such a huge moron. where should i start? "The real slim shady is a highly unpredictable player who has been on a massive massive rush lately in the NYC cash games. His confidence, therefore, is at an absolute all-time high." "the real slim shady"? get real you loser. you try to make him and yourself sound so important in these moronic posts all the time i find it laughably absurd but now just annoying. stop trying to make him sound like a crazy villain capable of anything. he's just a rich donk with money so he's in every hand trying to find ways to get rocks who are UNDEROLLED like you to fold best hands. you seem to have impossible decisions every hand when youre three handed and flop trips with monster kicker against him. i cant wait till you play with real players and you muck 2nd pair constantly when it's good 99% of the time. i think you're a really awful player and am starting to get sick of these posts making yourself sound like you can actually play b/c you made a couple bucks in the livest game in the country. you would get chewed up by anybody who could really play and seem to already have your hands full with a megadonk in nyudave (i mean "the real slim shady"). get a grip. you're not a cool guy, youre a dork and a lousy poker player. p.s. i know both these dave cats and have played with them before. i kept quiet for a while but this cats out of control and needs a reality check. [/ QUOTE ] I've known gaucho/NYU Dave #2 for quite a long time, 1+ year, chatting with him on AIM. He has a little different way of talking about a few things. These posts are in no way "brags" for him, he just posts his hands. Can he get annoying sometimes? Sure, I tell him he does all the time. I probably am a little weird and annoying also. We play [censored] online poker, of course we're going to be a little weird. You're the most annoying one though. If you see a post by Gaucho, don't open it, duhhh. Although I see Gaucho playing in tough games online semi-frequently that he is -EV in(and I tell him so on AIM...under my real name), he actually still doesn't chunk off a bunch because of his style, so it's not horrible horrible. This is a public forum, lots of stuff here annoys me too, but leave the kid alone. P.S. I thought the "real slim shady" getup was clever. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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[ QUOTE ] I think both are calls, though the 2nd one is a lot easier than the 1st one. In order for a good player to have you in hand 2, he needs to have had you beat before the river. Maybe he turned Qs full, but gl to him if that's the case. [/ QUOTE ] sup cero. curious why you feel this is the case, bc i feel the opposite. bc id strongly consider mucking here. [/ QUOTE ] You know, I somehow missed that he could have 53s, 75s, 87s, etc. He called getting just over 2:1 on the turn, after calling a c/r on the flop. I don't expect him to have just a flush draw, and if he does, milking you for 8k when he gets there is not going to get it done. Even with a big draw, he's getting into trouble gambling on paired boards there; it's going to be very tough for the implied odds to favor him enough when he gets there to get enough value to make drawing worthwhile. In other news, likoping is a little bitch, Gaucho is a cool guy and his posts from these games are excellent, and EM2 made a good call about likoping sounding like Grandiose. EM2 is making good contributions to this board now, and I for one am going to lay off of him. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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Hand 1: Turn is a 3. I now have trips. He leads weak (400). I raise to 1500. Again, I'm really not sure how much merit there is in raising here , but I decided to do so for value, obviously. [/ QUOTE ] This statement makes me think you lost the hand. I think there is no question about the merits of raising the turn. It's the easiest decision of the hand. You must raise here, unless you are very certain that the only hand he ever weak leads is a set, and then you should just call down. Your hand is very well disguised. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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[ QUOTE ] Hand 1: Turn is a 3. I now have trips. He leads weak (400). I raise to 1500. Again, I'm really not sure how much merit there is in raising here , but I decided to do so for value, obviously. [/ QUOTE ] This statement makes me think you lost the hand. I think there is no question about the merits of raising the turn. It's the easiest decision of the hand. You must raise here, unless you are very certain that the only hand he ever weak leads is a set, and then you should just call down. Your hand is very well disguised. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, I raise here. Unfortunate he has A3 though. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think both are calls, though the 2nd one is a lot easier than the 1st one. In order for a good player to have you in hand 2, he needs to have had you beat before the river. Maybe he turned Qs full, but gl to him if that's the case. [/ QUOTE ] sup cero. curious why you feel this is the case, bc i feel the opposite. bc id strongly consider mucking here. [/ QUOTE ] You know, I somehow missed that he could have 53s, 75s, 87s, etc. He called getting just over 2:1 on the turn, after calling a c/r on the flop. I don't expect him to have just a flush draw, and if he does, milking you for 8k when he gets there is not going to get it done. Even with a big draw, he's getting into trouble gambling on paired boards there; it's going to be very tough for the implied odds to favor him enough when he gets there to get enough value to make drawing worthwhile. In other news, likoping is a little bitch, Gaucho is a cool guy and his posts from these games are excellent, and EM2 made a good call about likoping sounding like Grandiose. EM2 is making good contributions to this board now, and I for one am going to lay off of him. [/ QUOTE ] totally missed this as well. (the combo draws) i fold the 2nd |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
I like your posts Dave. Give us even more details on characters, settings etc...
1. He is acting like he wants a call, since he knows this, I call. 2. Fold. Trying to price you in. |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
i have played with NYU dave many times, to say that he likes to make moves is the understatment of the year. he loves to bluff show it and rub it in your face. based on his rep there is no way david can fold these hands. Dave this is dan we have playe dmany times at the Geneo together. The first hand is a no brianer , he is repping the 3. Easisiet call ever, 2nd is a bit tougher but how can u lay down to NYu dave...lol, dave is that game as juicy as you say it is?
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
1) his range here IMO is boat 65% straight 30% bare trips 5% in terms of his raising for value range. then there are bluffs. you have to figure out how often he's bluffing, but you don't beat his value raising range like ever. IMO this huge river c/r is rarely a bluff since ppl rarely c/r river bluff and usually not this big... so i'd fold.
2) i'd prefer to bet/fold this river, i think you lose value from worse trips and top pair hands by checking. but once you check it should be to check/fold since he usually has pairs or draws, and when you check he checks behind pairs. if he bluffs missed straight draws sometimes but always bets flushes and always checks pairs, you're a big dog to his river betting range... so i also think this one is a fold once you check the river. |
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[ QUOTE ] Forget NYU Dave, I wanna hear about "Russian" Al's play or maybe "Duron-key". [/ QUOTE ] If "Russian" Al (i can only imagine where his money comes from) and/or Duron(rich kid family money) are in this game in NY,,,,,,,,,,I dont care what the stakes are,it HAS to be weak. They are the TWO biggest HS fish in the the northeast! [/ QUOTE ] Ahahhaaa! I knew someone knew my boys.... Yes they are weak LOL. |
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lol...do i know you? what is your name? oh, HU? [/ QUOTE ] you are getting a lot better at posting on here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
RESULTS....i got pwned.
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1) his range here IMO is boat 65% straight 30% bare trips 5% in terms of his raising for value range. then there are bluffs. you have to figure out how often he's bluffing, but you don't beat his value raising range like ever. IMO this huge river c/r is rarely a bluff since ppl rarely c/r river bluff and usually not this big... so i'd fold. 2) i'd prefer to bet/fold this river, i think you lose value from worse trips and top pair hands by checking. but once you check it should be to check/fold since he usually has pairs or draws, and when you check he checks behind pairs. if he bluffs missed straight draws sometimes but always bets flushes and always checks pairs, you're a big dog to his river betting range... so i also think this one is a fold once you check the river. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is the most solid advice I have read so far amongst the others. The river CR was just sooo big, and combined with his antics (his standard M.O. is to use double reverse psychology--which I didn't mention before) should have dictated a fold. Also, and this is someone no one commented on, his donk turn bet/calling of the raise should have tipped me off that he was trapping (hence, he was inducing a raise). In any case, I literally thought for about 5-8 minutes, and finally called. He had JJJ. 2) On this hand, this was a super ez fold. When he calls the pot-sized flop cr, and he calls the turn bet, he is not floating. He either has a combo draw, or straight draw. I guess there is a chance he has a one pair hand like KK,AA,JJ, so I'm not sure if betting is preferred here, but I think I like to check, with the intention of check folding. Also, his river bet size is super scary here, since it's so much in the "value range." He had AQss, having turned top pair. One line I really thought would have been dirty was cring to like 15kish or so. Stack sizes would have been perfect for a river shove. ps. for anyone who thinks nyu dave is a donk (either me or or the other nyu dave) both of us LOVE to play hu. and nyu dave is up a LOT more than most people's bankrolls in the past month or so in the biggest games in the city, so he's doing just fine... |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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arent you scared cops or someone else will rob you playing with this much cash? [/ QUOTE ] lol...no, we don't bring cash to the games, everything is settled later. |
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The comments and behavior after the river bet make me want to call. Getting up and leaving, going to smoke and THEN making faces at you shows me that he wasn't comfortable enough to act cool at the table, and needed to get into a less stressful environment to get it together. "The Q didn't help me," isn't a standard comment IMO. When a good player makes a comment that you hear often from less-good players, he's usually employing some kind of fake (or double-fake). But a non-standard comment is less likely to be used this way, and at face value, he seems to be trying to say subtly that he's not bluffing. I think he is. [/ QUOTE ] this is exactly what he wants people to think... |
Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
hey in hand 1 i think you call the river. given that he calls preflop with any 2 cards, i think he is just using a scary board to raise big. hand 2 i'd fold river, also the call preflop is a big big mistake not a little one.
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Re: NYU Dave v. NYU Dave 100/200 NL: Two hands.
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hey in hand 1 i think you call the river. given that he calls preflop with any 2 cards, i think he is just using a scary board to raise big. hand 2 i'd fold river, also the call preflop is a big big mistake not a little one. [/ QUOTE ] i agree...in retrospect...the call preflop is awful. a few of the people i talk through hands whose opinions i respected most said that even in a 3 handed deepstack game it's a huge leak... |
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