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I had a collection company call me today claiming I owe some company $7000 for playing poker online. I dunno what's going on. Can a company based in the US collect on a foreign company that has taken bets/etc from a company overseas? Cause I'm not going to pay, never heard of the company that they claim I owe them or anything.

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identity theft?

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Sounds like you may have some identity theft issues. I wouldn't just blow this off. Who knows what else might be out there lurking?

It's also possible it's just someone trying to defraud you, but that's worth investigating too.

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i've ng there that checked my credit report recently and there is nothing there that isnt mine..

im just curious how a foreign internet gambling site can contract with a US collection company to collect a debt period... sounds like the US company is treading on thin ice?

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i've ng there that checked my credit report recently and there is nothing there that isnt mine..

im just curious how a foreign internet gambling site can contract with a US collection company to collect a debt period... sounds like the US company is treading on thin ice?

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Chargebackz RULEZ!

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I had a collection company call me today claiming I owe some company $7000 for playing poker online. I dunno what's going on.

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You're lying.

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Did you pay these people back?

I don't see any reason why a foreign company couldn't sell a debt for collection just because they're foreign. On the other hand gambling debts aren't enforcable in the US, so you ought to be able to prevent the collection agency from reporting. It'll probably take some work.

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Did you pay these people back?

I don't see any reason why a foreign company couldn't sell a debt for collection just because they're foreign. On the other hand gambling debts aren't enforcable in the US, so you ought to be able to prevent the collection agency from reporting. It'll probably take some work.

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Nice find. That $ is gone for the super bowl... But it still goes back to, I didnt lose it playing poker as the company claims, and its not betgameday either that they say it was...

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On the other hand gambling debts aren't enforcable in the US, so you ought to be able to prevent the collection agency from reporting.

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If they do report, is it possible to have it removed?

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So you have posted in three threads. One about bouncing an ACH to a sportsbook, this thread and another about tilting away $59,000 playing online blackjack. We should believe this collection is not legit?

Pay your debts. When players scam gambling sites not only do others pay the cost through higher rake, fewer bonuses and fewer promos you also hurt everybody involved in the affiliate business, all the way down to the rakeback players.

If you can afford to tilt off $59,000 you can pay your $7000 gambling debt. It's not going to just go away.

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So you have posted in three threads. One about bouncing an ACH to a sportsbook, this thread and another about tilting away $59,000 playing online blackjack. We should believe this collection is not legit?

Pay your debts. When players scam gambling sites not only do others pay the cost through higher rake, fewer bonuses and fewer promos you also hurt everybody involved in the affiliate business, all the way down to the rakeback players.

If you can afford to tilt off $59,000 you can pay your $7000 gambling debt. It's not going to just go away.

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yeah i was on drugs when i did that with the bj, so i didnt care..

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On the other hand gambling debts aren't enforcable in the US, so you ought to be able to prevent the collection agency from reporting.

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If they do report, is it possible to have it removed?

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I would say yes, but that's something of a wild-ass guess. Anyone in this sort of situation ought to consult an attorney.

ETA: Not Rigel though. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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i guess i should look into the federal credit laws... because i have no idea what this po comany is etc i really want to know its mine before i pay

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Homer: You know, Marge, for the first time in our marriage I can finally
look down my nose at you. _You_ have a gambling problem!
Marge: That's true. Will you forgive me?
Homer: Oh, sure. Remember when I got caught stealing all those watches
from Sears?
Marge: Hmm.
Homer: Well, that's nothing, because _you_ have a gambling problem! And
remember when I let that escaped lunatic in the house 'cause he
was dressed like Santa Claus?
Marge: Hmm.
Homer: Well _you_ have a gambling problem!

Seriouly though

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i've ng there that checked my credit report recently and there is nothing there that isnt mine..

im just curious how a foreign internet gambling site can contract with a US collection company to collect a debt period... sounds like the US company is treading on thin ice?

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you're just like those tards who show up on judge judy. i hope the repo men come and take your most prized $7,000 item. why are people so stupid?

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im just curious how a foreign internet gambling site can contract with a US collection company to collect a debt period

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I do not see why a foreign company can not do business with a US company. Many US companies do business with foreign companies. The Japanese company Honda builds a lot of cars in the US. General Motors builds cars in Europe.

A minor contract to collect a debt by a collection agency for a foreign company isn't exactly a violation of the WTO.

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Actually it probably will just go away, there is about a 0% chance they can actually do anything to this guy over this.
The right thing to do is probably to pay, but just like Homer said in the other thread, had you won and then the ACH bounced you would have been freerolled 100% of the time, so I wouldn't feel too bad about it.
The stuff about other players paying the costs through higher rake is a total joke. If nobody ever scammed a gambling site, I can guarantee the rake would be exactly the same (several times higher than it would need to be to break even) and the odds would not improve on any of the casino games. Online gambling is the second highest profit-margin industry in existence. Furthermore most of these sites have no qualms about screwing their customers/affiliates when it comes to payouts as I have seen numerous times on this forum and others. Really there is no moral obligation.

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So you have posted in three threads. One about bouncing an ACH to a sportsbook, this thread and another about tilting away $59,000 playing online blackjack. We should believe this collection is not legit?

Pay your debts. When players scam gambling sites not only do others pay the cost through higher rake, fewer bonuses and fewer promos you also hurt everybody involved in the affiliate business, all the way down to the rakeback players.

If you can afford to tilt off $59,000 you can pay your $7000 gambling debt. It's not going to just go away.

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yeah i was on drugs when i did that with the bj, so i didnt care..

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Oh, you should have said so before.

I first i was like "wow what an idiot for tilting off that much money on bj".

But now that i know you were on drugs during it......

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The stuff about other players paying the costs through higher rake is a total joke.

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OK so when a players charges back $7000 the site passes this on to the affiliate and players. This $7000 gets deducted from the affiliate's MGR. This wipes out a massive amount of profit. Also the biggest thing rake goes towards is fraud. I can't imagine how in the world you can think that doesn't get passed on.

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And who gives a S*** about what affiliates have to endure besides other affiliates?

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hey poker -- i have no problem paying backmy own debt.. its just that how do i know that by paying this company in teh US that i will be in the clear with this company based outside of the us, considering the legal enviroment towards online gambling in the us.. u knwo what i mean

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On the other hand gambling debts aren't enforcable in the US, so you ought to be able to prevent the collection agency from reporting.

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If they do report, is it possible to have it removed?

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I would say yes, but that's something of a wild-ass guess. Anyone in this sort of situation ought to consult an attorney.

ETA: Not Rigel though. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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prolly a better question for the legislation forum

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And who gives a S*** about what affiliates have to endure besides other affiliates?

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QFT.

Really OP you are a turd.

1. Buy Gun
2. Learn to shot gun
3. Put gun to head
4. Pull trigger.
5. Profit!!!!!

At least you can tilt away more money after the above outcome. Minimize your losses fool.

-Brendan

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And who gives a S*** about what affiliates have to endure besides other affiliates?

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I'm not an affiliate and I care about my affiliate being able to stay in business and not going under because some scumbag disputed his losses.

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I would pay!
This is the first attempt to collect the debt.
If the collection agency nice guy route dont work.
Lets just say I know of some guys that work for a collection agency .
I also have heard they have worked for offshore companys in the past.
Just make sure you know who is at the front door before you answer it

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I would pay!
This is the first attempt to collect the debt.
If the collection agency nice guy route dont work.
Lets just say I know of some guys that work for a collection agency .
I also have heard they have worked for offshore companys in the past.
Just make sure you know who is at the front door before you answer it

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And I used to laugh when people from my part of the world said that USA is a third world country.....