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adi 04-24-2007 02:13 PM

ub hand histories today
 
the hand histories show the action all wrong and the money won/lost is also wrong. my pt profit is 1350 while my ub account seems to be up by about 100. anyone else with these problems [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] pt says my vpip is 6/0 after 200 hands at 600.

HP 04-24-2007 02:22 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
yeah mine's f'ed too

adi 04-24-2007 02:26 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
i didn't win over 1000 like pt says but i'm pretty sure it was much more than 100.

Kazuma 04-24-2007 08:04 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
Is there anyway to request HH from them? Or is anyone who played today screwed for todays HHs?

gila 04-24-2007 08:08 PM

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You used to be able to request hands, but was a limited number, 100 or 500 I think. Not sure anymore

Al_Money 04-24-2007 09:53 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
Everything is wrong for me too. I'm so close to leaving this [censored] site, so many problems.

adi 04-24-2007 09:55 PM

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did any of you notice money missing too or is it just the hh's [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Luuucas 04-24-2007 11:03 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
Just stopped my session for the night. Balance in cashier seems to be correct. Values in PokerTracker are way off.

Also noticed the UltimatePoints were not updating properly while I was playing.

Kazuma 04-24-2007 11:06 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
I wish they would fix this, I want to play, but I don't want to stop and have it say I am up 3x as much as I really am. (Or down that much either)

DavidC 04-24-2007 11:09 PM

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Here's the weird thing...

the PT stuff looks legit when I look at the HH's in PT...

So, that must mean that UB isn't paying out, or something.

Octopus 04-24-2007 11:27 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
On a first look, it seems the problem is that anytime anyone raises pre-flop, it leaves out that action from the hand histories. PT isn't complaining (strangely), but it destroys the stats.

It does not include that raise in the calculations of money won, so every pot you win that you raised PF, PT is giving you too much credit. (That doesn't seem like enough for how big my overstatement is, though; something else might be going on.) Also, this explains why your pre-flop stats are ?/0 where ? is abnormally small. It is actually the number of times you limped / zero.

There is nothing wrong money-wise on site, as near as I can tell.

Luuucas 04-24-2007 11:32 PM

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The problem isn't even just with preflop ... anytime you raise (or anyone else raises for that matter) it is not recorded in the hand history.

Ghostridah 04-24-2007 11:33 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
is it still messed up for you guys?

Luuucas 04-24-2007 11:36 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
I stopped playing there for the night. Figured no reason if i couldn't import my play and especially cause the UltimatePoints weren't being awarded properly, so I can't even earn them towards the points for cash promo.

bkkdude 04-24-2007 11:40 PM

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i bet ub changed the way they calculate ultimate points overnight. big difference between yesterday and today.

no points for me i wll go to bodog. i think ub want to go out of business.

jamzfive 04-24-2007 11:45 PM

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My history from a SnG I just busted out in was messed up, so at 2330 EDT things were still hosed.

On the software updates page at the UB website, it looks like they're gearing up for an update tomorrow (25-Apr); I wonder if the messed up HH's were due to prep they were doing behind the scenes for that.

I'd bet there's a good chance we'll all be able to get correct HH's eventually. If you've ever gotten some by e-mail before, they're in a different format than the ones you get from the HH window during play. Whatever the original source for the histories is has *got* to be be untainted, right?

Right?

jb

kcheel 04-24-2007 11:53 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
There is a thread in the Bonus forum also about the points FYI.

I noticed some wierd things tonight too, including the points not being correct on all of the tables. There are right on some but not others.

RAHZero 04-24-2007 11:58 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
LOL, this is my "graph" for today! If only... (actually was up a little over $300)

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8044/crazysd3.jpg

NapoleonDolemite 04-25-2007 02:37 AM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
I just played for about an hour and 15 minutes. When I finished, pokertracker had me winning about 450, which I know was wrong. On the other hand UB had me losing 700+, which I am almost positive is wrong too. As best I can tell I should have lost about 2-300 on the session.

NapoleonDolemite 04-25-2007 06:11 AM

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I contacted UB and even though I haven't seen accurate hand histories yet, from a transaction history they sent me it appears that everything is fine in cashier department. I guess I play worse than I thought [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. So just to clarify, it appears that none of my money is missing.

faux_pas 04-25-2007 06:18 AM

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PT has me up over $10k and i'm really down $500-1k. going to have to purge this session from PT completely. now i'll just have to purposely lose about $500 to get my stats in order.

flopmonster9 04-25-2007 06:35 AM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
Is it possible that UB's problem has altered the rakeback statistics it sends out, because I just checked my stats and they were awfully low.

jonyy6788 04-25-2007 09:45 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Is it possible that UB's problem has altered the rakeback statistics it sends out, because I just checked my stats and they were awfully low.

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they changed rakeback starting April 1st...

link

jonyy6788 04-25-2007 09:55 AM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
also, HH's are still not functioning correctly as of right now

jonyy6788 04-25-2007 10:40 AM

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neverforgetlol 04-25-2007 10:47 AM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
yeah i'm having the same problem

lol @ roshambo

jamzfive 04-25-2007 12:21 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
Has anyone gotten UB to update yet? I checked the FTP site that the updater searches to find the latest version, and it doesn't look like the new version is available yet, the website and e-mails notwithstanding. Maybe they're holding it back until the HH thing is fixed?

jb

DavidC 04-25-2007 01:24 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Is it possible that UB's problem has altered the rakeback statistics it sends out, because I just checked my stats and they were awfully low.

[/ QUOTE ]

they changed rakeback starting April 1st...

link

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Is there a UB link somewhere that explains the rakeback, because it's like 0.00001% likely that this guy just made that up.

neverforgetlol 04-25-2007 01:25 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Has anyone gotten UB to update yet? I checked the FTP site that the updater searches to find the latest version, and it doesn't look like the new version is available yet, the website and e-mails notwithstanding. Maybe they're holding it back until the HH thing is fixed?

jb

[/ QUOTE ]

it's not updating it for me. just give it a few hours.. or days

jonyy6788 04-25-2007 01:41 PM

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rakeback method change is definitely true.....

it's just my guess as well that they wont put out the update until HH issues are fixed

SweetPea 04-25-2007 01:58 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
Rakeback has changed for sure. 10% MGR penalty for all U.S. players, just because they can, I guess. On top of that, they've changed their MGR model to contributed average. If you didn't put into the pot, you get no MGR.

Expect somewhere around a 40%-50% reduction in rakeback.

Mr. Orange 04-25-2007 02:04 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
[ QUOTE ]
Roshambo – Commonly referred to as Rock, Paper, Scissors, Roshambo has arrived at UltimateBet. Go head-to-head with another live player in Cash Games and SnGs for real money or for free.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL. Awesome.

cracks 04-25-2007 02:50 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Rakeback has changed for sure. 10% MGR penalty for all U.S. players, just because they can, I guess. On top of that, they've changed their MGR model to contributed average. If you didn't put into the pot, you get no MGR.

Expect somewhere around a 40%-50% reduction in rakeback.

[/ QUOTE ]

I knew that they switched to contributed, but where did you see that they're taking 10% off the top of MGR? Link please?

jonyy6788 04-25-2007 02:59 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
I've personally never believed the fact that our MGR is getting hit. I know that my MGR last month was my MGR-100% bonus and that's it.

This post says 10%, the other one says 20%....who to believe? I'd trust my own numbers more than anything (mine don't get updated daily). I guess I'll find out in May when payment comes.

Niediam 04-25-2007 03:02 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Rakeback has changed for sure. 10% MGR penalty for all U.S. players, just because they can, I guess. On top of that, they've changed their MGR model to contributed average. If you didn't put into the pot, you get no MGR.

Expect somewhere around a 40%-50% reduction in rakeback.

[/ QUOTE ]

I knew that they switched to contributed, but where did you see that they're taking 10% off the top of MGR? Link please?

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought it was 20% actually... threads about this in the A/R forum.

SweetPea 04-25-2007 03:23 PM

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10% seems to be what my affiliate is taking off my MGR before payment. The math works out. *shrug*

Don't want to hijack the thread, but there's a reason why UB's numbers continue to drop. They keep taking away reasons to play there.

curious123 04-25-2007 04:41 PM

Re: ub hand histories today
 
HHs seem to be okay for me now, anyone still having probs?

HP 04-25-2007 04:49 PM

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HHs seem to be okay for me now, anyone still having probs?

[/ QUOTE ]

works for me now so far

Victor 04-25-2007 04:50 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
HHs seem to be okay for me now, anyone still having probs?

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not working for me. this is lame.

M Tal 04-25-2007 05:33 PM

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Stll screwy HHs


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