FLORIDA ALLOWING POKER GAME STAKES TO BE RAISED IN JULY!
 

Good news, bad news, which do you want first?

Good news, stakes are increased by 250%.

Bad news, that's now going to be $1 to $5.

Hey, I just got the inside info from a world famous fat guy who has inside info from the Hard Rock management.

I even said that's it? So please don't bust my balls. I'm just communicating the info I got.

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Instead of rumors from a fat guy, read the bills, HB 1377 and SB 752. They are in committee this week.

One raises the stakes from $2 to $10, and the other raises it to $5 limit and $100 NL. Both dramatically increase the possbilties for buyin amounts WRT tourneys. Unless the session expires, they will work out the differences in committee.

It looks likely to go through -- FL needs the tax dollars.

You could also call your reps and encourage them to pass these bills. B.S.ing with a fat guy isn't helping anyone.

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FYI: Legislative session ends May 4.

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$5 limit and $100 NL


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Thank god you started a new thread for this.

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Pass the Bill Pass the Bill!!!!

100 NL sounds good!!

Florida needs some bigger stakes!!

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The bills have cleared committee and are on the floors of both chambers. The Senate bill was on the calendar today, and it was amended and "ordered engrossed", which sounds like it got merged with another bill. House bill is on the calendar for tomorrow.

Links for tracking goodness:
HOUSE: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sectio...lId=36480&

SENATE:
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sectio...lId=35084&

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omg $100NL seriously this could be very bad for me as I might actually enjoy playing at the casino and spend too much time there

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FU - man WE'RE GETTIN' NL CASH GAMES BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I spoke with a friend of mine who has worked in the Florida Legislature. He read the links and he says, based on the speed at which these bills moved through committee and the committee votes, these bills will pass by the end of next week.

This, obviously, doesn't mean anything to you all, but I think come July 1, the price of poker will be going up in Florida.

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I spoke with a friend of mine who has worked in the Florida Legislature. He read the links and he says, based on the speed at which these bills moved through committee and the committee votes, these bills will pass by the end of next week.

This, obviously, doesn't mean anything to you all, but I think come July 1, the price of poker will be going up in Florida.

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I agree totally, my sources are saying the same thing. Nothing gets done faster than revenue raising legislation in a cash poor government.

By the way- - WE'RE GETTIN' NO LIMIT CASH GAMES BABY!!!!!!!!

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If this all turns out for the best it will take some of th sting out of the online situation since I am in Florida. IM PUMPED

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Based on how the FL gov't has been over the past 5+ years, I am merely going to just cross my fingers. Remember the Marlins' ballpark debacle (which is still going on)? They also have to work on property tax stuff to make that more palatable, not to mention stop the gouging of home insurance (my home insurance is nearly $4000, for all of you living elsewhere and paying 10% of that).

The fact is, making the poker rooms go to a $5 max bet and a $100 NL game is not going to be as great as you all think, nor will it bring in the kind of tax dollars you all think. While it will raise interest in poker in Florida, making the poker rooms more full than normal, the amount of money it will bring in to the state will be a drop in the bucket compared to what they need (just like the U.S. legalizing online poker -- the federal tax benefits just isn't enticing enough).

Furthermore, seeing as how these rooms charge the most insane rakes in the universe on their games and tourneys now, I can see a MINIMUM $6/pp time charge per dealer in the no limit game, which makes the $100NL a farce unless you get lucky and build a monster stack. And to do that, you'll have to sit in for a few hours, then stay for a few hours, which will cost you quite a bit, all things considered.

The only positive is that the play down here is so downright awful that anyone with any sense of what they are doing should do moderately well in a $100NL game.

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Based on how the FL gov't has been over the past 5+ years, I am merely going to just cross my fingers. Remember the Marlins' ballpark debacle (which is still going on)? They also have to work on property tax stuff to make that more palatable, not to mention stop the gouging of home insurance (my home insurance is nearly $4000, for all of you living elsewhere and paying 10% of that).

The fact is, making the poker rooms go to a $5 max bet and a $100 NL game is not going to be as great as you all think, nor will it bring in the kind of tax dollars you all think. While it will raise interest in poker in Florida, making the poker rooms more full than normal, the amount of money it will bring in to the state will be a drop in the bucket compared to what they need (just like the U.S. legalizing online poker -- the federal tax benefits just isn't enticing enough).

Furthermore, seeing as how these rooms charge the most insane rakes in the universe on their games and tourneys now, I can see a MINIMUM $6/pp time charge per dealer in the no limit game, which makes the $100NL a farce unless you get lucky and build a monster stack. And to do that, you'll have to sit in for a few hours, then stay for a few hours, which will cost you quite a bit, all things considered.

The only positive is that the play down here is so downright awful that anyone with any sense of what they are doing should do moderately well in a $100NL game.

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Don't troll. We've been asking for this, and it seems likely to happen. Let's take the improvement and work with it, and in a year or two ask for more.

FWIW, the bill also raises tourney stakes to "ten times the amount" that can be risked in an individual hand. This would be either $800 or $1600 for entry in a tourney depending of which version passes.

So enough with the trolling. This isn't Vegas (we don't want it to be), and I am personally happy that we are getting SOMETHING.

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We are one step closer. The Senate just passed this bill 29-10.

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We are one step closer. The Senate just passed this bill 29-10.

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SHIP IT

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Here's a thought. This is the plain text from the Senate version that has passed.

"However, a cardroom operator may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100."

It seems to me that technically this could open the door for buy-ins greater than $100. Say for instance a cardroom lets you buy-in for anywhere from $100-$300. In that case no player is required to buy-in for more than $100. I don't think that is the spirit of the law but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try it.

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holla!

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can't wait till they have big games

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house insurance in florida is absurd. hurricanes or not, people are getting raped down there.

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politic...427gamble.html

The interesting part of the article:
The Florida House is less likely to approve the measures, however, and Gov. Charlie Crist was non-committal about a so-called expansion of gambling, which his predecessor, Gov. Jeb Bush, opposed.

"It's all in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. It depends on whether or not they're things that already exist. I think my approach to it is to see what passes and then have a chance to evaluate it," Crist said.

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Here's a thought. This is the plain text from the Senate version that has passed.

"However, a cardroom operator may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100."

It seems to me that technically this could open the door for buy-ins greater than $100. Say for instance a cardroom lets you buy-in for anywhere from $100-$300. In that case no player is required to buy-in for more than $100. I don't think that is the spirit of the law but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try it.

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Huh? You lost me here???

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It looks like the Senate Bill that passed on Friday raised the maximum bet to only $5 instead of $10 which means the maximum buy in for tournaments will be $800. The language about re-buys remained in the bill.

Also, the bill preserved the language about NL cash games with a maximum buy in of $100 but limited the language to only Texas Hold'em games.

Also, (more disappointing) the hours of operations remain at 12 hours daily and the language about allowing the local municipalities to extend the hours by majority vote was stricken...so 12 hours is all. However, the language about only allowing poker operations on days when wagering is allowed at that facility's daily event was stricken so it appears that Dania can have poker on Mondays.

The language about jackpots was preserved.

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The hours of operation (max 12) is disappointing because unless they begin at 2:00 PM and end at 2:00 AM, the tournaments will continue to have their "Turbo" blind structures in order to get the game completed before the place must close.

I don't know about anyone else, I am not going to plop down several hundred dollars let alone $800 to play in a tournament with $2500 in starting chips with blinds starting at $50 and $100 with 15 minute levels. That may be OK for the current $45 but not for $800.

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Here's a thought. This is the plain text from the Senate version that has passed.

"However, a cardroom operator may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100."

It seems to me that technically this could open the door for buy-ins greater than $100. Say for instance a cardroom lets you buy-in for anywhere from $100-$300. In that case no player is required to buy-in for more than $100. I don't think that is the spirit of the law but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try it.

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Huh? You lost me here???

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For example, max required buyin on a Stars $1k table is $200 I believe.

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Here's a thought. This is the plain text from the Senate version that has passed.

"However, a cardroom operator may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100."

It seems to me that technically this could open the door for buy-ins greater than $100. Say for instance a cardroom lets you buy-in for anywhere from $100-$300. In that case no player is required to buy-in for more than $100. I don't think that is the spirit of the law but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try it.

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Huh? You lost me here???

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For example, max required buyin on a Stars $1k table is $200 I believe.

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It might be interpreted that a minimum buyin can be set, not a maximum. If required buyin is, say, $80, that would mean that you would need at least $80 to buyin with no mention of maximum you can buy in for.

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Here's a thought. This is the plain text from the Senate version that has passed.

"However, a cardroom operator may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100."

It seems to me that technically this could open the door for buy-ins greater than $100. Say for instance a cardroom lets you buy-in for anywhere from $100-$300. In that case no player is required to buy-in for more than $100. I don't think that is the spirit of the law but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try it.

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This is exactly how this reads to me. The reguired players buy in should be the minimum. The house should be able to set the maximum where they want since the player is not required to buy in for that amount.

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Question: When will I be able to sit at a 100 max game at the Hollywood Hard Rock for the first time?
Is this official or am I too excited to read correctly?

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Here's a thought. This is the plain text from the Senate version that has passed.

"However, a cardroom operator may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100."

It seems to me that technically this could open the door for buy-ins greater than $100. Say for instance a cardroom lets you buy-in for anywhere from $100-$300. In that case no player is required to buy-in for more than $100. I don't think that is the spirit of the law but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try it.

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This is exactly how this reads to me. The reguired players buy in should be the minimum. The house should be able to set the maximum where they want since the player is not required to buy in for that amount.

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I can't imagine that's what was intended, but that's how it reads to me.

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Question: When will I be able to sit at a 100 max game at the Hollywood Hard Rock for the first time?
Is this official or am I too excited to read correctly?

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The House has a week to pass it. There seems to be some doubt that that's going to happen.

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Question: When will I be able to sit at a 100 max game at the Hollywood Hard Rock for the first time?
Is this official or am I too excited to read correctly?

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The House has a week to pass it. There seems to be some doubt that that's going to happen.

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This coming from the person who said that a constitutional amendment was necessary to raise the betting limits....
@#%&head

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Question: When will I be able to sit at a 100 max game at the Hollywood Hard Rock for the first time?
Is this official or am I too excited to read correctly?

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The House has a week to pass it. There seems to be some doubt that that's going to happen.

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This coming from the person who said that a constitutional amendment was necessary to raise the betting limits....
@#%&head

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This coming from the person who seems to think this is an issue of some importance in Tallahassee. You probably also believe in the Easter Bunny.

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When this bill finally passes I'm going to laugh a little on the inside about the comments made in this thread... as well as the other about FL legislation... and then I'm going to go out and enjoy playing at the casinos...

without the need for a constitutional amendment or public referendum....

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This coming from the person who seems to think this is an issue of some importance in Tallahassee. You probably also believe in the Easter Bunny.

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Perhaps you missed the part in the statutes where they doubled the licensing fees per table from $500 to $1000.

That's a lot of money for the State. In a time where they're looking to reduce property taxes and not create a deficit for the state I'd imagine this is something they do care about.

I'm just amazed that the law is this close to being passed and yet you don't want to acknowledge or show support for it. This isn't like the past rumors where some guy in a cardroom who has a brother who knows a guy said it's happening. It's an actual bill that's already been passed in the Senate and has a week to be finalized and passed in the House. This is for real. Open your eyes. Show some support for this. It's an opportunity for poker to grow in our state and you're being a complete and total ass about the issue for no apparent reason except, perhaps, that you hate that you may be proven wrong.

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I'm looking at reality. This is like all the baseball fans down here who every year think the state's going to pay for a baseball stadium and then every year they don't. That's not to compare the two issues, but to point out the blind optimism of those folks who can't see past their nose to understand the reality of the situation.

Believe me, I'd love to see it happen. I'll be out at the cardrooms every day playing if it does. But I just don't think it will. In the current situation, the House has five days to deal with three huge issues -- property taxes, homeowners insurance, a baseball stadium. They also are getting a lot of pressure on the no-fault auto insurance issue.

The poker issue has no support in Tallahassee. None. Cardrooms do not support this particular bill because, as you pointed out, it would double their licensing fees for something that wouldn't come close to doubling their revenues. From the legislative standpoint, the extra revenues the state would get from doubling license fees on poker tables is a drop in the bucket.

I'd love to see this happen. But if I were betting on it, I'd give 10:1 that this bill just dies under a pile of other ones this week.

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Something that you guys may not have known is this bill originated in the house so they see little resistance to this getting passed. My sources have gone so far as to say he would be absolutely shocked if this didn't pass. Someone's going to be like "stop saying your sources who are they" dont worry about it. This is an internet forum and if you can't take it at face value and with a grain of salt then you should re-evaluate your situation

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Question: When will I be able to sit at a 100 max game at the Hollywood Hard Rock for the first time?
Is this official or am I too excited to read correctly?

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The House has a week to pass it. There seems to be some doubt that that's going to happen.

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This coming from the person who said that a constitutional amendment was necessary to raise the betting limits....
@#%&head

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This coming from the person who seems to think this is an issue of some importance in Tallahassee. You probably also believe in the Easter Bunny.

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Like I said ....... @#%&head !!!!

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Question: When will I be able to sit at a 100 max game at the Hollywood Hard Rock for the first time?
Is this official or am I too excited to read correctly?

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The House has a week to pass it. There seems to be some doubt that that's going to happen.

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This coming from the person who said that a constitutional amendment was necessary to raise the betting limits....
@#%&head

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This coming from the person who seems to think this is an issue of some importance in Tallahassee. You probably also believe in the Easter Bunny.

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Like I said ....... @#%&head !!!!

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By the way...when this gets passed...you are paying the first buy-ins for both Cybrpunk and ME !!!!!!!