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Going pro
Just finished today my undergrad degree in compsci/physics WOOHOO..
Gonna be partying it up with friends here the next few days, but after that I'm going pro for a few months+. I am desperate to run well this month, because I want to go down to vegas for a month in june for the WSOP. So if you guys see me tilting or playing bad, a private message telling me a mistake you saw me make would be awsome.. I'm trying to be a zen tao buddisht poker playing ninja this month. A++ game all the time. Ill be rusty for a week or so (havent played any poker for a month) but after that.... Any regulars here going to vegas for the WSOP? Give me a shout if you are... Hopefully gonna be living/grinding there for all of june, assuming I don't kill my bankroll in may.. See you at the tables..... |
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What stakes? Projected $$/hr?
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rusty for a week and zen buddhist taoist ninja does not compute. if you can be you cannot do, be what you can do, do what you can be. good luck though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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If you run bad at 5/10 or 10/20 just play PS 30/60 I always seem to run hot when I play there.
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i ll probably be in vegas in june as well
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are you going to be one of the multi-tablers you ranted against? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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gl are you going to be one of the multi-tablers you ranted against? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol, nah, my brain is too disorganized to ever play more than 4 tables. 3 tables is the sweet spot. I guess part of my hate for 8 tablers is because... I cant do it :P If I could succesfully play 8 tables over 1.0bb/hr each, Im sure id be playing 8 tables :P jstill gimme a shout if youre in vegas, can donk around at some limit games. I always think its funny meeting someone who knows you as your internet persona. |
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I'll be there in June too for a week. Staying on the south end of the strip.
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make sure you have rakeback [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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[ QUOTE ] gl are you going to be one of the multi-tablers you ranted against? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol, nah, my brain is too disorganized to ever play more than 4 tables. 3 tables is the sweet spot. I guess part of my hate for 8 tablers is because... I cant do it :P If I could succesfully play 8 tables over 1.0bb/hr each, Im sure id be playing 8 tables :P jstill gimme a shout if youre in vegas, can donk around at some limit games. I always think its funny meeting someone who knows you as your internet persona. [/ QUOTE ] sounds great, can't see it happening soon but one day. chez |
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Heisenberg, good luck. I hope you are careful with your bankroll management. The games aren't very good these days, and I personally don't think this is a very good time to be going pro. Do you have a job lined up for the fall?
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Heisenberg,
Congrats on physics degree (from a physics grad student). Good luck with full-time online poker, always like your posts and thought you played well in the few hands we've played together. I'll be in vegas a few of the weekends of the wsop. |
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The games aren't very good these days, and I personally don't think this is a very good time to be going pro. [/ QUOTE ] |
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good luck man, i hope another 2+2er makes it
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[ QUOTE ] The games aren't very good these days, and I personally don't think this is a very good time to be going pro. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Its not so bad when you consider the alternative. chez |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The games aren't very good these days, and I personally don't think this is a very good time to be going pro. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Its not so bad when you consider the alternative. chez [/ QUOTE ] I would estimate that the alternative for a physics major is a staring job in the 50K/year range with opportunity for fairly rapid acceleration and with good benefits. In today's conditions, one needs (1) a pre-existing bankroll, and (2) discipline to put in hours playing your "A" game or close to it consistently in order to get the equivalent return from poker. It's possible that game quality will improve within the next 6-12 months. In the long term the American and Asian markets still have room to be tapped. But realistically, online poker may not be a viable career option for very long. The evolution in playing ability in the past year or so is something that cannot be undone. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The games aren't very good these days, and I personally don't think this is a very good time to be going pro. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Its not so bad when you consider the alternative. chez [/ QUOTE ] I would estimate that the alternative for a physics major is a staring job in the 50K/year range with opportunity for fairly rapid acceleration and with good benefits. In today's conditions, one needs (1) a pre-existing bankroll, and (2) discipline to put in hours playing your "A" game or close to it consistently in order to get the equivalent return from poker. It's possible that game quality will improve within the next 6-12 months. In the long term the American and Asian markets still have room to be tapped. But realistically, online poker may not be a viable career option for very long. The evolution in playing ability in the past year or so is something that cannot be undone. [/ QUOTE ] Its not just about maximising income, the alternative is a day job and that sucks for some of us (I left a lot more than $50,0000 and wouldn't go back and I'm not even any good). chez |
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Its not just about maximising income, the alternative is a day job and that sucks for some of us (I left a lot more than $50,0000 and wouldn't go back and I'm not even any good). [/ QUOTE ] I understand that there are some downsides to day jobs and one of the most appealing aspects of online poker is the freedom that comes with being able to play whenever you feel like it. That said, that freedom is going to be increasingly diminished to the extent that it becomes harder and harder to find a nicely profitable game at any time in the day. Second, if the games become sufficiently tough that it becomes difficult to maintain a winrate above a few tenths of a BB/100, then the danger of going broke is going to be severe. Imagine a 1000+ BB downswing that takes place over several months of play. That means losing 1000 BB in cash + whatever your living expsenses for that time period are. Are the games *that* bad yet? No, I don't think so, but the poker ecosystem is in a very fragile state. The number of weak fish that support the winning players is much lower than it has been in the past. With tougher games all over the place, the fish are going broke at a faster rate and are not being replenished. There's a real danger that games will slowly become worse and that eventually the players who are mediocre winners and/or run bad over a long stretch will go effectively bankrupt. Is this preordained to happen? No, and there's a lot of people who have a major incentive to keep a poker economy going. But it does mean that deciding at this point in time to go pro -- instead of say, working a day job for the time being while playing on the side and feeling out how the poker ecosystem evolves over the next few months -- is probably a poor decision. I hope it works out for people who are relying on poker as their sole source of income, but I fear that it will not end well for everybody in this situation. |
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[ QUOTE ] Its not just about maximising income, the alternative is a day job and that sucks for some of us (I left a lot more than $50,0000 and wouldn't go back and I'm not even any good). [/ QUOTE ] I understand that there are some downsides to day jobs and one of the most appealing aspects of online poker is the freedom that comes with being able to play whenever you feel like it. That said, that freedom is going to be increasingly diminished to the extent that it becomes harder and harder to find a nicely profitable game at any time in the day. [/ QUOTE ] The freedom is nice (though not seeing much of it stumbling towards supernova elite) but that's not that important. The best bit for me is not having had to deal with a quality moron for 2 years with 'no meetings' and 'no commuting' coming in fast at 2 and 3. [ QUOTE ] Second, if the games become sufficiently tough that it becomes difficult to maintain a winrate above a few tenths of a BB/100, then the danger of going broke is going to be severe. Imagine a 1000+ BB downswing that takes place over several months of play. That means losing 1000 BB in cash + whatever your living expsenses for that time period are. Are the games *that* bad yet? No, I don't think so, but the poker ecosystem is in a very fragile state. The number of weak fish that support the winning players is much lower than it has been in the past. With tougher games all over the place, the fish are going broke at a faster rate and are not being replenished. There's a real danger that games will slowly become worse and that eventually the players who are mediocre winners and/or run bad over a long stretch will go effectively bankrupt. Is this preordained to happen? No, and there's a lot of people who have a major incentive to keep a poker economy going. But it does mean that deciding at this point in time to go pro -- instead of say, working a day job for the time being while playing on the side and feeling out how the poker ecosystem evolves over the next few months -- is probably a poor decision. I hope it works out for people who are relying on poker as their sole source of income, but I fear that it will not end well for everybody in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] the games are nowhere near that bad yet and I think you're a bit pessimistic about the future unless you just mean for people in the USA. chez |
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If I were in your shoes, I'd not go pro until I played 100k hands at 15/30 or higher.
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If I were in your shoes, I'd not go pro until I played 100k hands at 15/30 or higher. [/ QUOTE ] Either you have incredibly high monthly expenses or are just incredibly risk-averse. I'm not a huge advocate for going pro, but 100k hands of 15/30 is insane. If you're good enough to amass 100k hands at those limits (and most aren't), you'll have earned well over $40k just during that time period, which is enough for most people to comfortable live for an entire year. Rob |
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This is only temporary.. I dont plan to play poker forever or even close.
1. I've only clocked just over 100k hands online throughout my time playing poker. I played my first game of hold em a little over a year and a half ago. It's almost always been on the backburner sinec ive started playing. I wanna see what I can accomplish if I set my mind to it. I have never been this obsessed with ANYTHING before... It stimulates me intellectually, It's a competitive outlet, it's flexibile, a challenge AND I make money doing it. My winrate has also been well above the 2+2 "expected win rate" at 3.0BB/100 over this sample. I know I still have a lot to learn, and make plenty of mistakes but I have yet to feel "over my head". 2. I'm 23 years old and I want to travel .. bad. I never have had the flexibility to do so. Now is the first time that I do. Poker is something you can do almost anywhere. The better I get at it, the more I make when im on the road. 3. I'm planning on diverting my attention between limit and NL so I'll be prepared to jump ship if limit dies. I feel comfortable at 1/2 NL online, winrate at .50/1$ over a medium-small sample is pretty high and I've had pretty incredible results live @ 1/2 NL and donkaments. 4. I don't know what I want to do with my life I have no desire to be a physicist. I do not want to take my masters/phd at all. My job experience is with computers. I have good grades for a tough degree from a solid university AND work experience. I'm fairly sure it will not be too diffiuclt to get an entry level computer job if poker starts collapsing. I have a place to live for no rent in toronto with my parents should I ever fall off my feet. 5. I'm going to be keeping my eyes open for business/career opportunities while im traveling. Im sure I will meet plenty of people on the way... I apreciate the advice/warning, but this is something I've thought a great deal about and need to see for myself. When it comes to life decisions I am normally very risk adversive, I wouldn't take a coin flip for a dollar. I have a great safety net and I'm confident in my ability to recognize when I need to pull out. Also want to say thanks for all the support from everyone! |
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I'm going to be keeping my eyes open for business/career opportunities while im traveling. Im sure I will meet plenty of people on the way... [/ QUOTE ] Good luck. This is the only part of your post that concerns me. I strongly recommend not looking for business opportunities while you travel. 9/10 people you talk to along those lines will just be looking to take advantage. And never consider investing any thing significant without completely knowing what your parents think of the idea. |
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My winrate has also been well above the 2+2 "expected win rate" at 3.0BB/100 over this sample. [/ QUOTE ] Damn man, you should be alright! I'm living in Bangkok, playing full-time, making about 1.3 BB/100, and am totally fine. Like chezlaw, I left a 100K/year computer job that was crushing my soul. This life is pretty freaking awesome, I have to say (at least for now). Good luck, and let me know if you're busting to Thailand. -Brass |
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Hopefully you have living expenses saved up. Depending on poker to eat can be incredibly stressful. I played as my sole source of income for a little less than 2 years. I don't know what my combined winrate over that time was (I filled up several DBs) but I crushed the old party. My hourly earn has dropped significantly since the [censored]-storm, and I'm glad I now have a nice day job to eat up the insane variance.
Also, remember, that if you pay yourself 2BB/100, your winrate is not 3.5BB/100. It's 1.5BB/100. If you pay yourlelf 3.5BB/100, your winrate is 0, and without an infinite bankroll, YOU WILL GO BROKE SOMEDAY, or have to move down. Anyways, good luck. |
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man ive been a pro since i was playing $5 SNGs and too scared to take shots at one dollar two dollar limit holla
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man ive been a pro since i was playing $5 SNGs and too scared to take shots at one dollar two dollar limit holla [/ QUOTE ] This is pretty bad-ass. holla chitown. |
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admiralfluff are u from chicago?
i remember playing u on the party 10/20. im not sure if i ever won a pot vs u [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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admiralfluff are u from chicago? [/ QUOTE ] From Portland, but live in Chicago now. [ QUOTE ] i remember playing u on the party 10/20. im not sure if i ever won a pot vs u [/ QUOTE ] Man, I loved those games. |
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[ QUOTE ] My winrate has also been well above the 2+2 "expected win rate" at 3.0BB/100 over this sample. [/ QUOTE ] Damn man, you should be alright! I'm living in Bangkok, playing full-time, making about 1.3 BB/100, and am totally fine. Like chezlaw, I left a 100K/year computer job that was crushing my soul. This life is pretty freaking awesome, I have to say (at least for now). Good luck, and let me know if you're busting to Thailand. -Brass [/ QUOTE ] Are there any live games in thailand that someone who only knew english could play? Or do you only play online? And yeah, my winrate at my current limit im sure is not anywhere near my overall win rate. A lot of those hands were with anal game selection @ 2/4 on party/ prime time stars... I miss party poker [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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The stars game was fine till all you party tags migrated over. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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[ QUOTE ] Its not just about maximising income, the alternative is a day job and that sucks for some of us (I left a lot more than $50,0000 and wouldn't go back and I'm not even any good). [/ QUOTE ] I understand that there are some downsides to day jobs and one of the most appealing aspects of online poker is the freedom that comes with being able to play whenever you feel like it. That said, that freedom is going to be increasingly diminished to the extent that it becomes harder and harder to find a nicely profitable game at any time in the day. Second, if the games become sufficiently tough that it becomes difficult to maintain a winrate above a few tenths of a BB/100, then the danger of going broke is going to be severe. Imagine a 1000+ BB downswing that takes place over several months of play. That means losing 1000 BB in cash + whatever your living expsenses for that time period are. Are the games *that* bad yet? No, I don't think so, but the poker ecosystem is in a very fragile state. The number of weak fish that support the winning players is much lower than it has been in the past. With tougher games all over the place, the fish are going broke at a faster rate and are not being replenished. There's a real danger that games will slowly become worse and that eventually the players who are mediocre winners and/or run bad over a long stretch will go effectively bankrupt. Is this preordained to happen? No, and there's a lot of people who have a major incentive to keep a poker economy going. But it does mean that deciding at this point in time to go pro -- instead of say, working a day job for the time being while playing on the side and feeling out how the poker ecosystem evolves over the next few months -- is probably a poor decision. I hope it works out for people who are relying on poker as their sole source of income, but I fear that it will not end well for everybody in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] I find your posts about the poker ecosystem quite interesting sweetjazz but dont you think if the games will gettin tougher that a lot of wannabe semipros will leave becauze they dont think its worth anymore to play and that leaves enough fish for us?I read some post in a german forum that they think in the future they dont think it is worth anymore to put time and work in poker when they dont can expect a great winrate and some already stopped playing because of that so my assumption is that the games get obv tougher that a lot of tags will leave poker because they think it isnt worth for them anymore because i cant imagine that the poker ecosystem is that fragile...sure the games got tougher but do you really think its possible that the poker ecosystem breaks down or that the games get so tough that you almost can grind out 0.5BB at your A++ game? I cant imagine that but i dont know of course |
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heisenb3rg,
im rooting for ya |
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I agree with nearly everything sweetjazz said, which is why solid/flexibile backup plans are needed.
You guys have inspired me to write an essay on the future of poker. I wanted to put it in a different forum incase anyone else wanted to add to it. Plus I spent way too long writing this , FU 2+2 stop wasting my time [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] There's tons of assumptions and it's fairly general, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's kind of accurate. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=0#Post10083124 |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Its not just about maximising income, the alternative is a day job and that sucks for some of us (I left a lot more than $50,0000 and wouldn't go back and I'm not even any good). [/ QUOTE ] I understand that there are some downsides to day jobs and one of the most appealing aspects of online poker is the freedom that comes with being able to play whenever you feel like it. That said, that freedom is going to be increasingly diminished to the extent that it becomes harder and harder to find a nicely profitable game at any time in the day. Second, if the games become sufficiently tough that it becomes difficult to maintain a winrate above a few tenths of a BB/100, then the danger of going broke is going to be severe. Imagine a 1000+ BB downswing that takes place over several months of play. That means losing 1000 BB in cash + whatever your living expsenses for that time period are. Are the games *that* bad yet? No, I don't think so, but the poker ecosystem is in a very fragile state. The number of weak fish that support the winning players is much lower than it has been in the past. With tougher games all over the place, the fish are going broke at a faster rate and are not being replenished. There's a real danger that games will slowly become worse and that eventually the players who are mediocre winners and/or run bad over a long stretch will go effectively bankrupt. Is this preordained to happen? No, and there's a lot of people who have a major incentive to keep a poker economy going. But it does mean that deciding at this point in time to go pro -- instead of say, working a day job for the time being while playing on the side and feeling out how the poker ecosystem evolves over the next few months -- is probably a poor decision. I hope it works out for people who are relying on poker as their sole source of income, but I fear that it will not end well for everybody in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] I find your posts about the poker ecosystem quite interesting sweetjazz but dont you think if the games will gettin tougher that a lot of wannabe semipros will leave becauze they dont think its worth anymore to play and that leaves enough fish for us?I read some post in a german forum that they think in the future they dont think it is worth anymore to put time and work in poker when they dont can expect a great winrate and some already stopped playing because of that so my assumption is that the games get obv tougher that a lot of tags will leave poker because they think it isnt worth for them anymore because i cant imagine that the poker ecosystem is that fragile...sure the games got tougher but do you really think its possible that the poker ecosystem breaks down or that the games get so tough that you almost can grind out 0.5BB at your A++ game? I cant imagine that but i dont know of course [/ QUOTE ] There was a lot of easy money floating around 3 years ago, this is now gone. Losers quit playing or inevitably move to lower limits. This is fine as long as the player pool was expanding -its not anymore. Now the US fish are gone and the US represented 2/3 of the cash from poker. Poker is a game best used as a hobby or 2nd income until you make it big. $40/yr is't worth it if you wnat to raise a family and no it will not be easy to get a good job if you wait a few years let your comp sci skills deteriorate and fall behind in your field. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, I think SJ's concerns are probably correct re: mid-limits and up. That said, I recently came back from not having played since about Oct. '05, and the PS 2/4 and 3/6 games...play exactly the same. (Not exactly true, the big losers are about 90% maniacs, rather than the 60/40 station/maniac split I recall) But, I'm happy making a couple bills extra a week, fairly risklessly at 2/4, and not necc. interested in moving up - the earn at 10/20 and above was likely people sort of like me who were 'moving up' or 'taking shots' and basically dropped 5-10k in free money on the table - and since there were a lot of bad players at 1/2 - 3/6, there was plenty of extra money to be made for taking these shots. I'm not sure that the lower and middle-lower limits will ever become terrible as I don't really foresee many of the mid-hi stakes winners being able to maintain the interest in beating 5/10 or lower, so instead of moving down, they'll just get real jobs. And there's still a lot of people out there who are willing to lose $500-1000 over a few months donking around at low stakes, wondering why they're so unlucky. As for OP, I think he's got a decent plan - make some good $'s over the summer and then move on to real life while keeping poker on the side. As a word of wording, be careful about burnout - it's so easy to just play and play and play that all of a sudden, it's bed time, and you've done nothing all day. A few weeks of that is pretty similar to going on a bender, and can be just as expensive... |
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OP- I thought you just went through a bad downswing or am I thinking of someone else? maybe your back out and feeling better about your game...the +3bb WR is impressive.
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First of, I think OP will do just fine if he plays anything like he posts.
I disagree with the doomsday stories about online poker. Basically it just suck being a US (limit) poker player these days. I have played some Stars 3/6 to 10/20 and the games there are IMO quite a bit worse than they currently are at party or Ongame. There is definetely still money to be made in the 5/T and T/20 games at party. The stuff about the ecosystem of poker is reasonable enough. But people should remember that the earnings for the online poker firms have been huge and they havent had to compete that much yet as the cake has been plenty big for all of them. The minute the player pool stops increasing or starts decreasing, we will see cut throat competition and lower prices on poker. I.e. they will start compeeting with better bonus/rakeback deals and lower rake. There is WAY to much money in online poker for it to die. Ever! |
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"My winrate has also been well above the 2+2 "expected win rate" at 3.0BB/100 over this sample"
Just out of interest what is your went to SD and won $ at SD for this period. If your a young guy with no dependents then i say go ahead and give it a go, What's the worst that can happen you "waste" a few months of your life lose your bankroll and have a few months gap in your CV. As long as your not going to take out any kind of loans to fund this and are happy that you might lose what you have already made from poker then fine. Bear in mind though whether you make it as a pro will have more to do with luck than your own skill level (assuming your game is at least of a reasonable standard, which it seems to be). |
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OP- I thought you just went through a bad downswing or am I thinking of someone else? maybe your back out and feeling better about your game...the +3bb WR is impressive. [/ QUOTE ] Well just under 300BB , it was all in a 4 day period which is what it really intense. I won it all back and a little more after that.. Before that my WR was 3.5BB/100 I just got a new computer (thank you stars FPP), I deleted pokertracker on my old computer so I wouldn't be tempted to play during the end of school so I couldn't give you my WTSD and WASD. It was something like 36/52 IIRC but it included my 2/4 and my 5/10 DB, which are very different games.. My style has changed drastically since then. I showdown WAY more at 5/10. Lag's used to be able to pick me apart, now I probabily play better against them than nits. |
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