200NL - TT in 3-bet pot, am I a genius or a spewtard?
 

Villain is 25/20/8 over a large sample. I have one note him: "capable of 3-barrell bluff"

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players
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<font color="black">SB: $248.65</font>
BB: $368.95
UTG: $237
CO: $184.15
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $254</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $25</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $18

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($52) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $40</font>, Hero calls $40

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($132) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $66</font>, Hero calls $66

<font color="black">River:</font> ($264) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $123</font>,

Comments on all street appreciated. i think something can be said on all streets.

Re: 200NL - TT in 3-bet pot, am I a genius or a spewtard?
 

Why exactly are we pushing river again? Nothing that beats you calls you here. I'm leaning toward spewtard, considering that he's getting 3-1 to call river.

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Why exactly are we pushing river again? Nothing that beats you calls you here. I'm leaning toward spewtard, considering that he's getting 3-1 to call river.

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I bet the river because i didn't want him to check behind w/QQ/JJ. If he has a hand less than that, he's not call anyways. he's obv not gonna fold a K, but i think he'd just bet the river again w/a K. I'm pretty sure he'd call w/an A. so basically, all i'm worried about on the river is an A or if he makes a hero call w/QQ/JJ. Again, anything bigger than trip Ks I think he's just betting again on the river.

comments on my thinking?

Re: 200NL - TT in 3-bet pot, am I a genius or a spewtard?
 

Your thinking is straight in that you can quite possibly get QQ/JJ to fold according to your image. However, what exactly are we putting him on after that 1/2 turn pot bet. He looks so strong there, and I really don't think QQ/JJ would be in his range, the way the hand is played.

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who was vill here ?

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who was vill here ?

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Highlow16

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Why exactly are we pushing river again? Nothing that beats you calls you here. I'm leaning toward spewtard, considering that he's getting 3-1 to call river.

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this post is contradictory. first you say that no way a worse hand calls and then you say he would be getting 3-1 on his money, implying who in their right mind wouldn't look you up. so, what exactly are you trying to say here?

according to your statement, if he is getting such good odds to call with a wide range of hands, then why cant our hand now beat some of those hands?

just to add - depending on much your play has widened/tightened his range in such a spot (3-1 odds) I might be more inclined to make a play on the turn rather then the river. That seems where you can get value out your hand or atleast not get it all in if you dont want to.

Re: 200NL - TT in 3-bet pot, am I a genius or a spewtard?
 

It depends on how competent are villain is. Would he really fire QQ/JJ on the turn? Wouldn't it be a value bet? Why would you flat call 2 streets with an A in your hand unless you had exactly AA/AK? If he is good enough to peg you on an accurate range, I think he calls with QQ. Maybe not JJ though.

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Why exactly are we pushing river again? Nothing that beats you calls you here. I'm leaning toward spewtard, considering that he's getting 3-1 to call river.

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I bet the river because i didn't want him to check behind w/QQ/JJ.

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Urm...You are in position.

If Villain is smart, he isn't holding QQ here, nor would he fold it if he did. The Ace cannot possibly have helped you because you basically never have AQ given the action, so from his perspective, either you just filled up with AK or AA, or you are bluffing.

Then again, your hand doesn't look at all like a bluff, because what idiot would call the flop and the turn with a hand like TT just hoping to bluff the river if an A falls?

Yes, that was sarcasm. You should have folded the turn.

By the way, if I was Villain here I would check AA and AK every single time on the river, because you can't possibly have a hand that calls a bet given how I have the deck crushed (which, for you, again, means this is a stupid spot to bluff).

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Why exactly are we pushing river again? Nothing that beats you calls you here. I'm leaning toward spewtard, considering that he's getting 3-1 to call river.

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I bet the river because i didn't want him to check behind w/QQ/JJ.

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Urm...You are in position.


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yea, i realize that, i meant to say that i didn't wanna check behind and let him just win the pot in case he had QQ/JJ. i wanted to give him a chance to make a bad fold if he did in fact have QQ/JJ.

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Then again, your hand doesn't look at all like a bluff, because what idiot would call the flop and the turn with a hand like TT just hoping to bluff the river if an A falls?

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hmmmm, then i guess it wouldn't make sense that I would have checked behind the river if a blank fell because the A really doesn't change my hand in the eyes of a competent opponent.

Re: 200NL - TT in 3-bet pot, am I a genius or a spewtard?
 

ive seen a lot worse riverbluffs on this forum today. i think you have a lot FE against better hands.

Re: 200NL - TT in 3-bet pot, am I a genius or a spewtard?
 

He is checking and wanting to call with his ace although he won't like it.

Jake

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he has QQ or JJ everytime here i think. he tanks and folds both probably.